Motorcycle page responses.


As of 11/30/95


From franza@sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Mon Jun 12 11:33:50 1995
From: Alexander Franz 
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 15:17:48 200
Sender: franza@sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

interest=     Tai Chi Chuan
name=     Alexander Franz
email=     franza@uni-duesseldorf.de
comments=     I have a www page on Taiji at
http://sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~franza/m-a/taiji/
just to let you know...
Acu Alex


From OldHonda@aol.com Mon Jun 12 15:07:06 1995
From: OldHonda@aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 20:12:01 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Gregg Garner
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1991
model=     EX500
condition=     2
price=     $2300
askingprice=     $2500
comments=     Included Supertrapp header and stock exhaust also


From RayG3@aol.com Wed Jun 14 09:22:51 1995
From: RayG3@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 09:23:37 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     RayG3
make=     Honda
year=     1973
model=     CB500K
condition=     4
price=     $200
askingprice=     $200
comments=     Bike ran, but has not been run in over two years
and needs gas tank seal (rust), tune up, carb 
overhaul, new rubber, battery, new front brake 
caliper (how novel), seat.  Looks ok.  On a side
note, bike came with complete but wrecked '73
parts bike.  Was running recently, but laid down 
and hasn't been running since.  I plan a full
"ground-up" resto project over the summer/winter.

From RayG3@aol.com Wed Jun 14 09:25:54 1995
From: RayG3@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 09:26:42 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     RayG3
make=     Honda
year=     1985
model=     Shadow 500
condition=     2
price=     $1,000

askingprice=     $1,200
comments=     Could be a "1" if not for slight dent in left
exhaust pipe.  9,500 miles and runs strong (for a
500).  Color is black and was well cared for.

From franza@sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Wed Jun 14 16:54:03 1995
From: franza@sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Alexander Franz)
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:43:09  0200 (MET DST)
Reply-To: franza@uni-duesseldorf.de (Alex Franz)

> Thanks for visiting my home pages.  I am having trouble accessing your
> Tai Chi page.
> 
> I am trying:
> http://sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~franza/m-a/taiji/
> 
> 
> and over several attempts I fail to access.  Is this the correct URL?
The new modified URL is
http://sunserver1.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de/~franza/taiji/
but the old one should work for some weeks, too.

I have the same problem accessing my pages, think the hhtp-daemon is
down. You could try the mirror:
http://alumni.caltech.edu/~tec/mirror/

If there are more problems, please feel free to email me.

cu Alex

From MBVK15A@mail.prodigy.com Wed Jun 14 22:04:39 1995
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 21:49:37 EDT
From: MBVK15A@prodigy.com (MR GEORGE M GRAHAM)
To: toml@sover.net

  Hi,
I found uour page searching Tai Chi on the webcrawler.  If
you are interested in adding links to Tai chi sites, I am
putting a list together now.  At my speed that will probably 
take several weeks (I'm new to this.)  When the list is done 
it will be on the web at http://www.geopages.com/Sunset
Strip/1007.html.  You're right, Mosaic didn't work for
e-mail at your web site.  Very impressive job you did on
your homepage!

                         Marvin 




From userid@vancouver.wsu.edu Thu Jun 15 17:49:22 1995
From: userid@vancouver.wsu.edu
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 14:44:09 -700

name=     Susan Melchert
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1983
model=     LTD 550
condition=     good
price=     $725
askingprice=     $800
comments=     The bike was garage kept and in very good condition.

From PHenry00@aol.com Sat Jun 17 12:38:39 1995
From: PHenry00@aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 12:39:29 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Pete Henry
make=     Honda
year=     1991
model=     ST1100
condition=     1
price=     $6700
askingprice=     $7495
comments=     

From Jack6913@aol.com Sun Jun 18 17:50:56 1995
From: Jack6913@aol.com
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1995 17:51:45 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     jack
make=     BMW
year=     1976
model=     r75/6
condition=     2
price=     1750
askingprice=     1900
comments=     

From hockey@strauss.udel.edu Mon Jun 19 10:30:45 1995
From: Brian Cha Wasilefski 
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 10:32:03 -0400
Sender: hockey@strauss.udel.edu

name=     Brian  Wasilefski
make=     Yamaha
year=     1986
model=     Radian
condition=     Good
price=     $1500
askingprice=     $1700
comments=     

From adaneau@sybase.com Wed Jun 21 17:29:11 1995
From: Al Daneau 
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 17:27:00 -700

name=     Al Daneau
make=     Honda
year=     1985
model=     Sabre V65
condition=     Great
price=     $2500.00
askingprice=     $2500.00
comments=     Al Daneau
13 Hickory Rd.
Hampstead NH

From 75021.1130@compuserve.com Thu Jun 22 14:32:19 1995
From: 75021.1130@compuserve.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 14:31:41 -0400
To: toml@sover.net


comments=     Only other dealer I checked would only come down to 5299. 
(5399 was list price)  This was purchased on 6/24 in Baltimore Maryland.
askingprice=     5399
price=     4995
condition=     New
model=     Bandit 600
year=     1996
make=     Suzuki
name=     

From tgab@brookings.polaristel.net Sat Jun 24 22:32:55 1995
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 95 21:35:23 -0500
From: "tgab@brookings.polaristel.net" 

name=     
make=     
year=     
model=     
condition=     
price=     
askingprice=     
comments=     Enjoyed your home page very much.  India -- how
wonderful.  If you would like to see a lady
biker's home page, mine is
http:/http://www.vtweb.com/brookings.cfa.org/~tgab/HarleyMom
email  tgab@brookings.polaristel.net

From import@ix.netcom.com Sun Jun 25 15:59:20 1995
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 13:00:57 -0700
From: import@ix.netcom.com (JOHN AGAZIM )
To: toml@sover.net

TOM,

DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SHOP FOR THIS BIKE. ARE THERE 
PUBLISHED DEALER COSTS FOR BIKES AS THERE IS FOR AUTOS ? 

APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK YOU MAY PROVIDE, THANK YOU.

ERIK AGAZIM,

TEL 800 397 0229
FAX 708 699 8630
E-MAIL:     import@ix.netcom.com

From toml Sun Jun 25 18:03:14 1995
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:03:10 -0400
From: Tom Lichtman 
To: import@ix.netcom.com, toml@sover.net

I haven't seen any published dealer wholesale 'new bike' prices.
N.A.D.A. y
publishes a 'yellow' book of used motorcycle prices that goa
goes back (pardon the typos, but I am away from home using a clumsy
interface) about 7 to 10 years.  It lists a 'wholesale ' price, but
not from manufacturer to dealer.

Tom

From import@ix.netcom.com Mon Jun 26 17:33:49 1995
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:33:37 -0700
From: import@ix.netcom.com (JOHN AGAZIM )
To: Tom Lichtman 

Tom,

Want to thank you for your fast response to my inquiry on pricing.

Rgds,

John Agazim

From eek@io.org Wed Jun 28 11:32:23 1995
From: "eek.a.geek" 
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 12:11:19 -0700

name=     
make=     yamaha
year=     1982
model=     maxim
condition=     good
price=     1000
askingprice=     1300
comments=     


From Lakehead.user@flash.lakeheadu.ca Wed Jun 28 17:18:24 1995
From: Lakehead.user@flash.lakeheadu.ca
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:15:35 -0700
To: toml@sover.net
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

name=     Veli-Martti Rautio
make=     Honda
year=     1983
model=     VF750F Interceptor
condition=     2
price=     $1500.00
askingprice=     $1500.00
comments=     I was leary about the purchase ( due to the
dreaded cam trouble, but a knowledgable person
came along with me to hear the engine run and all
seemed to be quite fine. It had been dropped once
(just some very minor "low speed" scratches on the
front left fairing. The seller also safetied the 
bike , and I've been enjoying it tremendously.

Vrautio@sky.lakeheadu.CA

From tomas.svanberg@data.telia.se Thu Jun 29 05:31:05 1995
From: tomas.svanberg@data.telia.se
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 09:30:25 -0200

name=     Tomas Svanberg
make=     Honda
year=     1972
model=     CB 750 K2
condition=     good
price=     15.000 SEK
askingprice=     same
comments=     Hi, the price is in swedish crowns and equals about 2000$. 
regards, Tomas 

From daniel@calvanet.calvacom.fr Thu Jun 29 05:50:49 1995
From: daniel@calvanet.calvacom.fr
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 11:51:36 0000

name=     Daniel BLERIOT
make=     BMW
year=     77
model=     R60/7
condition=     fair
price=     $3000
askingprice=     $3000
comments=     average price in ads

From parrilal@asc-en.wpafb.af.mil Thu Jun 29 12:07:55 1995
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 12:06:55 EST
From: "Adolph L. Parrillo" 
To: toml@sover.net

    What grade is the maple syrup?

    Thanks.

    - Al


From mmoya@wzoo.com Thu Jun 29 22:05:39 1995
From: mmoya@wzoo.com
Apparently-From: mmoya@wzoo.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 95 19:10:27 -0700

name=     Mike Moya
make=     Suzuki GS750
year=     1978
model=     GS
condition=     fair
price=     600.00
askingprice=     650.00
comments=     no comments

From tomas.svanberg@data.telia.se Fri Jun 30 05:47:40 1995
From: "Svanberg Tomas, Data" 
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 95 11:40:00 PDT
Encoding: 20 TEXT

Hello again, 

it was just fun to respond to your collection of bikeprice statistics. Im a 
late beginner in biking, being almost 40... But my Honda 750 was an old dream 
come true. 

I live south of Stockholm in a kind of countryside suburb called Tungelsta.

My line of work is in a multimediagroup at Telia (the largest Telecom 
operator in Sweden) where I and my colleagues build and maintain the 
official webpages (try them out, youll find us at http://www.telia.se).
 
Interesting that part of your roots are in Sweden, but on the other hand I 
guess that its not unusual in the US as many immigrants came from Sweden in 
the early century.  

Anyway, nice hearing from you and have a good summer, Im off to vacation 
now...

Tomas

From Wilds3@aol.com Sat Jul  1 15:46:15 1995
From: Wilds3@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 15:47:07 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Wilds DuBose
make=     yamaha
year=     1983
model=     125xr
condition=     good
price=     350
askingprice=     425
comments=     I have trouble starting my cycle. Sometimes it will st
art right away then other times it will take some time for it to crank.
I have3 cleaned out the gas tank, cleaned out the carbon in the head, clean
ed the carb and checked the electrical wiring which all 
seem to be OK. any suggestions would be appreciated.

                              
           Wilds

From DVDWN@aol.com Sun Jul  2 11:46:13 1995
From: DVDWN@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 11:47:06 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     honda
year=     1985
model=     cb450sc nighthawk
condition=     average for year

price=     $500.00
askingprice=     $650.00
comments=     the man wanted to sell it for money for hi harley.

From BZanow@aol.com Sun Jul  2 22:59:40 1995
From: BZanow@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 23:00:32 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Suzuki
year=     1995
model=     Intruder 1400
condition=     1
price=     7200
askingp
rice=     7600
comments=     Only had 480 miles on it and thought that it was a good deal.

From dmlloyd@julian.uwo.ca Tue Jul  4 19:25:49 1995
From: dmlloyd@julian.uwo.ca
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 95 19:03:37 -0400
Sender: lloyd@julian.uwo.ca

name=     Dave Lloyd
make=     Honda
year=     81
model=     GL 500
condition=     3
price=     $950 Can. ($700 US)
askingprice=     $1200 Can. ($880 US)
comments=     The Bike came with 96K Km (60K Miles).
I've put two thousand Km on it in the past fue weeks, and I'm very happy with it.

From artsfest@sover.net Wed Jul  5 13:44:34 1995
From: "William H. Hays" 
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 95 13:44:00 -0700

interest=     India
name=     William Hays
email=     artsfest@sover.net
comments=     Tom,
Thank you for your suggestion about tracking the home page for the Festival. 
I went to your "Asking Directions" page and had a personal laugh since my wife
and I also spent three months in India.  One aspect we encountered which I did
not see covered in your text was the concept of distance.  We found (in the south)
that distance was often "measured" or reckoned in furlongs!  After thanking the
person for the directions, we looked at each other and said,
"What the hell is a furlong?!"  We came to find out that it was the only English
measure the locals had heard of and they got it from a colonial race track built
by the British.  As well, they had no concept of the actual length of a furlong
(I think it is 220 yards).  So the distance given to our destination
"It is two furlongs" was meaningless.  Still the smile was genuine and the head
wobble familiar.

From JohnDoe552@aol.com Fri Jul  7 01:21:09 1995
From: JohnDoe552@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 01:22:03 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Adam
make=     RM
year=     '93
model=     125
condition=     great
price=     $2200
askingprice=     1 day
comments=     Great bike that I bought.  It has a bunch of mods to the engine.

From RRUBY@aol.com Fri Jul  7 14:03:40 1995
From: RRUBY@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 14:04:31 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     KAWASAKI
year=     1985
model=     NINJA 900
condition=     2
price=     2,400
asking
price=     2500
comments=     

From danyal@gn.apc.org Sat Jul  8 05:28:13 1995
From: Danyal Sattar 
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 95 10:38:26 -700

interest=     Tai Chi Chuan
name=     Danyal Sattar
email=     danyal@gn.apc.org
comments=     Nice to see the Int.sch. on the web.  
I'm with the London School (for about 4 years now)
and off to the Netheralands for the summer training 
in a couple of weeks.

Perhaps I'll meet you there?

Dan.


From cgehly@sover.net Sat Jul  8 14:15:23 1995
From: Craig Gehly 
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 95 14:18:07 -0400

name=     Craig
email=     cgehly@sover.net
comments=     Hi Tom--

I was wondering how you do your page hits, and if you could help me do that for my site.

Thanks,

Craig Gehly

From <@ugly.Microserve.Net:law@micorserve.net> Sat Jul  8 18:02:17 1995
From: law@micorserve.net
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 95 16:36:08 -0700

name=     SCOTT SPADAFORE
make=     YAMAHA
year=     1981
model=     MAXUM 650
condition=     GOOD
price=     $1000
askingprice=     $1295
comments=     


From EPHop@aol.com Sat Jul  8 23:51:52 1995
From: EPHop@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 23:55:18 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Eric Hoppe
make=     Honda
year=     86
model=     Magna 700
condition=     Very Good
price=     1600
askingprice=     
comments=     I feel I could have gotten more for it.

From EPHop@aol.com Sat Jul  8 23:53:53 1995
From: EPHop@aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 23:57:17 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Eric Hoppe
make=     Honda
year=     93
model=     CBR 900RR
condition=     Perfect
price=     8000
askingprice=     
comments=     That price is purchase price.  The bike is show room c
ondition and was purchased with 1300 actual miles

From 102415.2525@compuserve.com Mon Jul 10 03:30:56 1995
From: 102415.2525@compuserve.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 03:34:55 -0400
To: toml@sover.net


comments=     
askingprice=     8000
price=     7399.00
condition=     NEW
model=     CBR1000
year=     1994
make=     Honda
name=     Robb Maratea

From twickers@web_net.univnorthco.edu Mon Jul 10 10:02:58 1995
From: twickers@web_net.univnorthco.edu
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:04:21 -0700

name=     Tim Wickersheim
make=     Kawisaki
year=     95
model=     zx6e
condition=     execelent
price=     6900
askingprice=     7200
comments=     I found that different dealerships advertise different prices.  
After I purchased this one, a week later kawisaki ran it at a price of 6700. Oh well. 

From Lappen@aol.com Thu Jul 13 14:44:47 1995
From: Lappen@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:42:23 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Suzuki
year=     1995
model=     Intruder 1400
condition=     ex
price=     7000$
askingprice=     7850$
comments=     

From Lappen@aol.com Thu Jul 13 14:54:02 1995
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:55:28 -0400
From: Lappen@aol.com
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

Wow that was a fast answer......
I am a member of the German Motorcycle Club of El Paso Texas.
And prices over here are a very fractile thing... The Harley market is
completely in the hands of Barnett Harley Davidson what makes a Grand more
than the cataloge price.
The other dealers around in this aerea have good prices and are always ready
for bargain exspecially Kawasaki Honda Jamaha,,,, Expensive here is
Triumph....

Bye ......................................:))


From Litis@aol.com Thu Jul 13 20:03:13 1995
From: Litis@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 20:04:10 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     L. Kruse
make=     Honda
year=     1995
model=     CBR600F3
condition=     New
price=     $7300

askingprice=     
comments=     We also purchased in June of 1994 the following:

A 1993 Honda CT-70, a 1994 Honda Shadow 600 and
a Honda Shadow VT1100. 
We currently have four
motorcycles.

From bobbie@anger.einet.net Mon Jul 17 17:36:35 1995
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 16:37:29 CDT
From: bobbie@anger.einet.net (Heather Noel Bobbie)
To: toml@sover.net


Your annotation:

  Vermont Maple Syrup
  http://www.sover.net/~http://www.vtweb.com/brookside/

has been added to the Galaxy in area

  /galaxy/Business-and-Commerce/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Food
  http://galaxy.einet.net/galaxy/Business-and-Commerce/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Food.html

It should appear in Galaxy next week. Let me know if you think
something's not right.  If you have room, we'd appreciate your adding
a link to Galaxy in your Web pages; the link above, or 

  http://galaxy.einet.net/galaxy.html

Thank you for your patience!  And please excuse our dust... we've been
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From thesaint@ix.netcom.com Tue Jul 18 23:37:36 1995
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 20:37:08 -0700
From: thesaint@ix.netcom.com (St. Stephen)
To: toml@sover.net

  Hi Tom!

  I found your Web page via a Webcrawler search on the word "enfield." 
I was wondering if you have any scans of the Enfields that you rode in 
India!? I own a '95 Bullet 500 and have been trying to some digital 
scans of the bikes. Please let me know if you can help in my search. 
Take care.

Scott Haymaker
thesaint@ix.netcom.com
haymaker@capaccess.org


From tpc@sover.net Wed Jul 19 00:16:27 1995
From: tpc@sover.net
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 23:54:15 -0700

name=     Barry 
email=     barry@phoneco.com
comments=     Nice page.  

From kgilbert@netshop.net Wed Jul 19 00:17:40 1995
From: kgilbert@netshop.net
Apparently-From: kgilbert@netshop.net
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 21:15:44 -0700

name=     
make=     yamaha
year=     1981
model=     seca
condition=     v/g
price=     900 cdn
askingprice=     900 cdn
comments=     

From cameron@dap.CSIRO.AU Wed Jul 19 19:42:37 1995
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 09:44:03  1000
X-Original-To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
From: Cameron Simpson 
Reply-To: cameron@dap.CSIRO.AU
Return-Receipt-To: cameron@dap.CSIRO.AU
Organization: Division of Applied Physics, CSIRO, Sydney, Oz
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)

toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman) writes:
| I have a motorcyle page, with some usefull info-
| used bike price graphs 
 racing articles.
| http://www.sover.net/~toml/motorcyclepage.html

Added.

I assume those graphs are transparent GIFs. Known then that I imagine any
annotations must be in black text. I use a black background and can't see
this text. You might want to put a grey background just over the text
portions, or something.
	- Cameron Simpson
	  cameron@dap.csiro.au, DoD#743
	  http://www.dap.csiro.au/~cameron/
--
Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change,
     the courage to change the things that I can,
and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill
     because they pissed me off.
	- Jeffrey Papen 

From thesaint@ix.netcom.com Thu Jul 20 01:07:25 1995
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:24:56 -0700
From: thesaint@ix.netcom.com (St. Stephen)
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)

You wrote: 
>
>I haven't scanned any pix of the bikes yet, but will- my scanner just
>arrived last week.  Previously, I used a hand held grey scale, hence
>the nature of my headshot.
>

  Well please do let me know when you get the scans done as I'm very 
interested in acquiring any and all possible documentation. I'm 
currently getting some pix developed of my bike and I have a friend 
who'll scan them for me. I'll throw you a note when I get them 
digitized.

>Where do you own the Bullet?  Not many in the US.  We rode 350's.  I 
>saw a few 500's in India, but they are uncommon, and considered 'under
>developement' there.  
>

  I've got a Bullet 500cc (basic model not the Deluxe), and live in 
Mclean, Va. (USA). I bought it from the only U.S. importer of the 
Enfield motorcycles in La Plata, MD. Cost me $3700 which I know is a 
tad steep, but for a new bike and to someone who's so interested in 
them, I think it was a steal. I like the "retro" look, as well as the 
feel and ride of the bike. It's just a fun little bike for getting 
around town on. I've done a few things to it, but the only major 
replacement was to put an aftermarket muffler on it because the EPA 
made them literally weld two mufflers together to get it into the 
country. Anyhow, I love it. Pure fun.

>I have copies of some sales brouchures, a service manual, and an 
>illustrated parts list.
>

  Have any extras? I'd love to get my hands on something like this. 
I've got one brochure so far. It has a black 500cc on the front of it 
and specs on the back, but it was made for US/UK distribution. I've 
also got the parts manual and the shop manual, as well as the owner's 
manual. The bikes come with all of this except the shop manual which is 
$15 extra but well worth it.  ;)

Take care.

Scott


From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Thu Jul 20 08:27:31 1995
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 95 08:26:12 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: thesaint@ix.netcom.com

I found a couple of things about them in India-

1) gearing is real low- excellent when speed limits on roads is 40 kph
(24 mph).  Maybe sprockets, if available, could help.

2) all metal is of poor quality.  I spoke with some factory people,
and in order to get more life out of their (for India, very expensive)
tooling and dies  use softer metal.  Be very careful in tightening things-
I stripped a couple of threaded holes before I realized this.  Especially
the engine cases.

3) A mod I was warned to make is to cut a spiral oil passage in the surface
of the upper rocker arm bearing blocks.  There is no bearing shell, and
no lubrication.

Tom

From thesaint@ix.netcom.com Fri Jul 21 07:03:50 1995
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 21:26:01 -0700
From: thesaint@ix.netcom.com (St. Stephen)
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)

You wrote: 
>
>I found a couple of things about them in India-
>
>1) gearing is real low- excellent when speed limits on roads is 40 kph
>(24 mph).  Maybe sprockets, if available, could help.
>

  I like the low gearing because I don't intend to get the bike out on 
the highway that much. I live around Washington, D.C., and the roads 
are a nightmare here. The Beltway (495) for instance is not a safe 
place for motorcycles to begin with, and since the bike maxes out at 75 
mph, I really don't feel I need to get it out there to begin. I've been 
using it to get around town and general touring in the 40 to 55 zones 
that aren't part of the expressways. I do need a real road bike though 
and I intend to purchase either a Harley XLX (mid-80's bike) or an 
older Yamaha V-Max sometime next year. The Enfield, however, is more of 
a "fun bike" for local riding. Although I've done some de-restriction 
stuff to it, and other owners have toured through various states with 
them, I just don't see the bike as a long-haul mc for me.

>2) all metal is of poor quality.  I spoke with some factory people,
>and in order to get more life out of their (for India, very expensive)
>tooling and dies  use softer metal.  Be very careful in tightening 
>things-I stripped a couple of threaded holes before I realized this.  
>Especially the engine cases.
>

  I must have been lucky with mine, the metal is pretty good all over. 
But just today I did see a couple of new bikes at a dealership that 
just opened up in Winchester, VA., and they looked a little rougher 
than mine. It might have been luck, or maybe they just needed some 
serious cleaning up. I stripped the bike when I bought it and polished 
and buffed all of the metal. I've also got some previous experience 
with aluminum so I'm very careful when it comes to torqueing down nuts 
and such. I did manage to twist the oil lines and had to replace them. 
They're copper and thus even worse to deal with. I replaced nearly 
every washer on the bike too...they use very cheap washers for sealing 
and where I didn't swap out that paper washers for neoprene, I used 
copper washers. It doesn't leak a drop of oil or gas now! 

  But hey, all of this is part of the romance of owning a bike like 
this...it's what makes it fun.  :)

>3) A mod I was warned to make is to cut a spiral oil passage in the 
>surface of the upper rocker arm bearing blocks.  There is no bearing 
>shell, and no lubrication.
>

  Cool deal. That's one that I hadn't heard yet. I'll have to check 
into that. The importer told me that they re-tooled alot of their 
equipment to bring the bikes up to US standards. Apparently even the UK 
standard bike couldn't get into the US until some serious mods were 
made. Regardless, thanks for all of the advice.

  Take care.

Scott Haymaker

From TR7TIGER@aol.com Fri Jul 21 23:07:02 1995
From: TR7TIGER@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 23:11:26 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     TRIUMPH
year=     73
model=     TR7 TIGER 750
condition=     EXE
price=     2400
asking
price=     3000
comments=     BIKE IN EXE SHAPE I'VE PUT OVER 1000 MILES ON IT THIS
SUMMER ONLY WITH ONLY A MINER ELE PROBLEM BUT THAT'S BRIT BIKES

From paulc@slip.net Mon Jul 24 02:37:54 1995
From: Paul Coleman 
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 95 23:43:32 -0700

name=     marks art
make=     suzuki
year=     1992
model=     gsx-r
condition=     mint
price=     
askingprice=     5500
comments=     where can i find a blue price book in web


From nthelen@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU Tue Jul 25 15:09:39 1995
From: nthelen@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 12:14:49 -0700
To: toml@sover.net
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

name=     Nathanial P Thelen
make=     Honda
year=     1980
model=     Hawk 400
condition=     Perfect
price=     $700
askingprice=     $1000
comments=     


From Jamey620@aol.com Wed Jul 26 03:55:13 1995
From: Jamey620@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 04:00:02 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Bobby Hodges
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1991
model=     EX500
condition=     EXC
price=     $2100
askingprice=     $2900
comments=     I got this bike through a friend of a friend 
with 1004 miles and in almost mint condition!!!  With
the exception of two small scratches on the upper 
fairing the bike is cherry.  
It is very tight and runs like a bat out of hell.  WHAT A DEAL!!!

From MEGVINYL@aol.com Thu Jul 27 00:39:31 1995
From: MEGVINYL@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:08:54 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Triumph
year=     1966
model=     T120R
condition=     1
price=     5700.
askingprice=     7000
comments=     This is my purchase price - October 1994 - Didn't know if it would
help but thought you'd appreciate hearing from me. It's a 
total restoration with 100 miles.

From almonte@sover.net Thu Jul 27 00:41:32 1995
From: Allen Turner 
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 00:47:55 -0700

name=     Allen Miguel
email=     almonte@sover.net
comments=     Hey!  We were just up tonight cruising the net for the 
first time since we got netscape up and running.  Thought we'd 
check out Pawlet, without really expecting the search would turn
up anything.  Lo and behold!  Pawlet must be filled with 
computer sophistos.  Hope to run into you some day down at Mach's.  
Never did try Tai Chi Chuan, but might be interested.  Closest 
ever got was Bob Schoenemann's yoga class.  We've been to India, 
but don't know it too well.  Lived five years in Nepal.  
Hope to meet you one of these days.

From biggus@chem.bu.edu Sat Jul 29 10:30:12 1995
From: biggus@chem.bu.edu
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 10:32:44 -0400
Sender: biggus@chem.bu.edu

name=     Paul Stamatos
make=     NSU
year=     50's
model=     Supermax
condition=     fair/poor
price=     ?
askingprice=     ?
comments=     I found this bike in the basement of a house my family bought. 
It needs some serious restoration and I would just like to know what it's worth.

From ishankel@isn.net Tue Aug  1 14:15:48 1995
From: "Irene, Mike 
 Scott" 
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 15:22:43 -700

name=     
make=     honda
year=     1984
model=     250 custom
condition=     2
price=     700
askingprice=     850
comments=     

From FHSSax@aol.com Wed Aug  2 08:18:47 1995
From: FHSSax@aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 08:20:32 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Dale H. Henderson
make=     Honda
year=     1986
model=     Shadow VT1100C
condition=     Excellent
price=     $3,000.00
askingprice=     $3,000.00
comments=     The bike had only 2,995 miles on it.  It's in 
Excellent condition, except for some blueing on the exhaust pipes.

From braddp@VNET.IBM.COM Thu Aug  3 14:17:31 1995
From: braddp@VNET.IBM.COM
Reply-To: "Bradd Piontek" 
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 13:22:22 -0500
Sender: piont@rchland.ibm.com

name=     
make=     Honda
year=     1986
model=     Nighthawk 700S
condition=     
price=     
askingprice=     2995
comments=     

From bob@leak.pipex.net Thu Aug  3 15:56:50 1995
From: Bob Morley 
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 21:04:19 0000

name=     
make=     Honda
year=     94
model=     CBR1000FL
condition=     Good
price=     3000 pounds
askingprice=     not advertised
comments=     

From doug@rts.com.au Sat Aug  5 05:22:22 1995
From: Doug Hunt 
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 95 17:24:30 -0700

name=     
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1994
model=     ZZR250
condition=     as new
price=     6200
askingprice=     6800
comments=     Prices in AUS Dollars

From JonGLind@aol.com Sun Aug  6 00:52:03 1995
From: JonGLind@aol.com
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 00:57:39 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Jon Lind
make=     Honda
year=     1983
model=     NightHawk 650
condition=     good
price=     1200
askingprice=     1300
comments=     Had been recently painted an awful shade of pink,
apparently with spray cans.  A new paintjob was definitely needed.

From JonGLind@aol.com Sun Aug  6 00:52:51 1995
From: JonGLind@aol.com
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 00:58:28 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Jon Lind
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1981
model=     440 LTD
condition=     good
price=     800
askingprice=     800
comments=     

From JonGLind@aol.com Sun Aug  6 01:04:44 1995
From: JonGLind@aol.com
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 01:10:21 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Jon Lind
make=     Yamaha
year=     1981
model=     650 Special
condition=     2
price=     800
askingprice=     850
comments=     The bike vibrated way too much to be very useful, so 
I quickly sold it to buy a Honda Nighthawk 650.  
The Honda was much less "British" than the Yamaha.

From mfenn@port.island.net Fri Aug 11 23:58:08 1995
From: Mike Fenn 
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:01:36 -700

name=     Larry Rose
make=     Norton
year=     73
model=     Gus Kuhn Commando
condition=     Poor
price=     1800.00 CDN.
askingprice=     2000.00 CDN.
comments=     

From TDFCPA@aol.com Tue Aug 15 15:56:48 1995
From: TDFCPA@aol.com
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:59:19 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Tom Fisher
make=     Yamaha
year=     1995
model=     XV1100 (Virago)
condition=     New
price=     $7,000
askingprice=     $7,999
comments=     wow, but:
leaks oil 
wish the pegs were further forward

From TMiller711@aol.com Tue Aug 15 19:33:07 1995
From: TMiller711@aol.com
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 19:39:27 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Tim Miller
make=     Suzuki
year=     1995
model=     intruder
condition=     new
price=     
aski
ngprice=     
comments=     I am interested in seeing information on the Virago,
Intruder, and Vulcan.

From Galva@aol.com Tue Aug 15 22:35:34 1995
From: Galva@aol.com
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:41:55 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Honda
year=     1994
model=     VLX 600 Deluxe
condition=     1
price=     $4300
askingprice=     
comments=     

From sunripe@CyberGate.COM Thu Aug 17 03:09:09 1995
From: Steven Mar 
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 00:12:23 -700

name=     
make=     Suzuki
year=     81
model=     GS650ES
condition=     Good
price=     
askingprice=     1000
comments=     

From sams@sp067.cern.ch Thu Aug 17 05:31:00 1995
From: The Frog Prince 
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:36:30 200
Sender: sams@sp067.cern.ch

name=     
make=     HONDA
year=     1979
model=     XL 500-SB
condition=     4
price=     550 USD
askingprice=     600 USD
comments=     I loved that bike. Super-reliable, all-weather bike. 
Better technics than the XT 500 (e.g. the kick-starter,
4 valves). But bad brakes, 23 '' front wheel, and worst 
is the 6V battery.

From JBMC39A@mail.prodigy.com Thu Aug 17 13:44:10 1995
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:45:52 EDT
From: JBMC39A@prodigy.com (MR BRUCE C BATES)
To: toml@sover.net

sold 1983 flht for $6000.00


From Jh120@aol.com Sat Aug 19 04:33:51 1995
From: Jh120@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 04:40:27 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Jeff Hall
make=     Tri Daytona 500cc
year=     1972
model=     Daytona t-100
condition=     2
price=     $2000.00
askingprice=     2250.00
comments=     Restored condition, thanks for the page, I am new 
to vintage cycles, and I think I have found a new love affair. 
Can u please give me some info on where to find stuff for my bike. 
I really want to make it into a 40's looking creation, i.e. hardtail,
solo seat, etc. Again thanks for your help. By the way i am 
accessing you thru America Online if that makes any diff. 
my addresse is JH120

From GourmetMH3@aol.com Sat Aug 19 14:52:35 1995
From: GourmetMH3@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:59:14 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Mark Thompson
make=     Honda
year=     95
model=     CR-250
condition=     new
price=     $4550
askingprice=     $5500
comments=     traded in an '89 CR-250 Honda for $1400. Honda CRs 
seem to hold their price better than any other motocross bikes

From StvJnHuber@aol.com Sat Aug 19 17:53:49 1995
From: StvJnHuber@aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 18:00:28 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1977
model=     KZ1000
condition=     3
price=     $1000
askingprice=     $1200
comments=     This is a great bike.  Will spend the winter hopping it up, 
but I have already used up the rear tire in the 2000 miles I've owned it. 
Great page, will refer to it again when I add another to the collection
(late model 600)

From golvera@ciateq.mx Sun Aug 20 11:02:40 1995
From: Gustavo Olvera Giron 
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 95 09:32:58 -700

name=     Gustavo Olvera
make=     Yamaha
year=     1994
model=     Virago 250cc
condition=     new
price=     $ 4,000 usd
askingprice=     $4,000 usd
comments=     I bought this motorcycle in Mexico.

There is a lot of troblue finding accesories here
for the motorcycles, how can I get some accesories
using the net.

e-mail: golvera@ciateq.mx

From MTesch@aol.com Sun Aug 20 18:02:02 1995
From: MTesch@aol.com
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 18:04:50 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Michael P. Tesch
make=     Honda
year=     1984
model=     V65 Sabre
condition=     fair
price=     $2100
askingprice=     $2500
comments=     I say fair condition because although it only 
had 6000 miles it was apparent that it was not used for
a long time and the rubber was cracked and the hydraulic
systems were gunked up.

From TinWoody@aol.com Mon Aug 21 00:58:04 1995
From: TinWoody@aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 01:04:48 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Jeff Reiner
make=     Honda
year=     1986
model=     CMX450 Rebel
condition=     1
price=     2399
askingprice=     2399
comments=     I sell Lots of bikes as I own
Reiner's Harbor Honda, Aberdeen WA USA
(360)532-9253

name=     Jeff Reiner
make=     Honda
year=     1987
model=     CMX450 Rebel
condition=     1
price=     2399
askingprice=     2499
comments=     I sell Lots of bikes as I own
Reiner's Harbor Honda, Aberdeen WA USA
(360)532-9253

name=     Jeff Reiner
make=     Honda
year=     1986
model=     CB450SC Nighthawk
condition=     1
price=     1399
askingprice=     1499
comments=     I sell Lots of bikes as I own
Reiner's Harbor Honda, Aberdeen WA USA
(360)532-9253

name=     Jeff Reiner
make=     Honda
year=     1986
model=     CMX250 Rebel
condition=     1
price=     1399
askingprice=     1499
comments=     I sell Lots of bikes as I own
Reiner's Harb
or Honda, Aberdeen WA USA
(360)532-9253

name=     Jeff Reiner
make=     Honda
year=     1986
model=     VT700C Shadow
condition=     1
price=     2999
askingprice=     2999
comments=     I sell Lots of bikes as I own
Reiner's Harbor Honda, Aberdeen WA USA
(360)532-9253

name=     Jeff Reiner
make=     Honda
year=     1990
model=     CBR600F1
condition=     1
price=     3999
askingprice=     3799
comments=     I sell Lots of bikes as I own
Reiner's Harbor Honda, Aberdeen WA USA
(360)532-9253

name=     Jeff Reiner
make=     Honda
year=     1984
model=     GL1200A
condition=     1
price=     4699
askingprice=     4999
comments=     I sell Lots of bikes as I own
Reiner's Harbor Honda, Aberdeen WA USA
(360)532-9253

From rdemarti@lava.pacacc.com Mon Aug 21 15:44:03 1995
From: rdemarti@lava.pacacc.com
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 12:51:16 -0700
Sender: rdemarti@lava.pacacc.com

name=     
make=     Harley Davidson
year=     1983
model=     hlh 1000
condition=     fair
price=     4,200
askingprice=     4,500
comments=     Harley is a good moneymaker put it in the paper sold it 
next day

From dmcguire@ns.gamewood.net Mon Aug 21 17:28:56 1995
From: David V McGuire 
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 17:33:35 -0700

name=     
make=     Suzuki
year=     1982
model=     TS-450S
condition=     3
price=     600
askingprice=     2 weeks
comments=     sold in Richmond, VA

From jpmason@terra.SIRIUS.COM Tue Aug 22 22:12:51 1995
From: "James P. Mason" 
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:31:15 -700

name=     James P. Mason
make=     Honda
year=     1984
model=     CB700S Nighthawk
condition=     4
price=     1300
askingprice=     1475
comments=     

From vmdia1@vcp.monash.edu.au Wed Aug 23 00:43:53 1995
From: vmdia1@vcp.monash.edu.au
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:28:51  1100
To: toml@sover.net
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

name=     
make=     suzuki
year=     1996
model=     GSX 250
condition=     4
price=     2100
askingprice=     2200
comments=     HAVE YOU GOT ANY DATA ON THE GSXR 750? (ie. 88 model)

From marko@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 23 01:10:52 1995
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 22:03:38 -0700
From: marko@ix.netcom.com (Mark D. Phillips )
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com


Tom...
  Sorry about the blank message(s). I was responding to your motorcycle 
questionair in your home page, but haven't quite mastered netcom's 
method for sending E-Mail. The bike I purchased was a 1975 Norton 
Commando MkIII in excelllent condition. Asking price was $3,950.00. 
Selling price was $3,800.00. 
                                -Mark Phillips-

From Captev@aol.com Wed Aug 23 16:17:02 1995
From: Captev@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 16:18:03 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     E. Rockwood
make=     Honda
year=     1986
model=     GoldWing
condition=     Good
price=     3900

askingprice=     4000
comments=     

From gideon@globe.com.ph Thu Aug 24 23:11:37 1995
From: Gideon Javier 
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:57:57 -0700

interest=     Tai Chi Chuan
name=     Alice Roa
email=     aliceroa@globe.com.ph
comments=     

From kirbyk@sabc.co.za Fri Aug 25 04:25:21 1995
From: Kevin Kirby 
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:45:26 -700

name=     Kevin Kirby
make=     Yamaha
year=     1995
model=     XT 600 E
condition=     New
price=     24 000 (S.A. Rand)
askingprice=     32 000 (S.A. Rand)
comments=     I bought the bike for cash from a "non official
Yamaha" dealer, hence the price difference.

P.S. The exchange rate at the time of purchase 
     was about R 3.65 buys US$ 1.00

From 74453.1570.,@compuserve.com Fri Aug 25 19:20:50 1995
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 19:28:19 -0400
From: 74453.1570.@dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com, @compuserve.com
To: toml@sover.net


comments=     I am from Springfield.
Presently I am trying very hard to make some CGI
scripts work on the server at VTel in Springfield.
Do you have any experience in this subject?  Any info will help. Thank you.
email=     neis@vermontel.com
name=     Laurentiu Traineanu

From 74453.1570.,@compuserve.com Fri Aug 25 19:23:57 1995
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 19:31:30 -0400
From: 74453.1570.@dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com, @compuserve.com
To: toml@sover.net


comments=     PS Would you also share with me how did you
arranged the trick with counting the number of hits on your pages?
email=     neis@vermontel.com
name=     Traineanu Laurentiu

From BGrant8824@aol.com Fri Aug 25 21:44:28 1995
From: BGrant8824@aol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:51:34 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     RICHY RICH CYCLES
make=     HONDA
year=     1982
model=     GOLDWING
condition=     GOOD
pric
e=     1800.00
askingprice=     1800.00
comments=     I BUY USED AND WRECKS FIX THEM AND SELL
 THEM

From DHanchPam@aol.com Sat Aug 26 07:26:10 1995
From: DHanchPam@aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 07:33:22 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1979
model=     KZ1000st
condition=     2
price=     2200
askingpric
e=     2400
comments=     Was re painted and looked like new again, needed nothing.

From booster@aracnet.com Sun Aug 27 11:40:49 1995
From: Judson Gallagher 
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 95 08:49:35 -0700

name=     David E.
make=     Suzuki
year=     1982
model=     sp500 dual sport
condition=     3
price=     $550
askingprice=     $600
comments=     A less popular versoin of Honda XL500, Mine with 18,000 miles runs well, the tank is dented, plasic could be in better shape, tires have good tread, lights all work, but it is all there and I feel that I got a good deal.

From mo_busy@together.net Mon Aug 28 14:54:49 1995
From: mo_busy@together.net
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 14:57:23 -0700

name=     Craig Bailey
email=     mo_busy@together.net
comments=     Tom-

Modem Operandi is a new feature of Business Digest, devoted to
business applications of interconnected computers.

We're always looking to hear from people who have put the Internet
to work for them.  Email us and tell us about your experiences
selling syrup on the Web.

We may use your message-- or portions of it-- in the "Email" section
of an upcoming issue.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

From labpc17@jinx.sckans.edu Tue Aug 29 05:40:01 1995
From: labpc17@jinx.sckans.edu
Apparently-From: labpc17@jinx.sckans.edu
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 04:40:53 -0700

interest=     India
name=     Steve
email=     ruggless.@jinx.sckans.edu
comments=     Tom, 
Sounds like you had somewaht of a frustrating adventure on your trip to India.
Hopefully our upcoming bike trip is going to be smoother since we are going
with an Indian trip leader who seems to know his country like the back of his hand.
These guys are very good and they mapped out their itinerary themselves. 
India is one country I didn't want to tackle independently and after reading
your experience I'll be glad I am going with these Indian trip leaders. 
We are going to take in the Solar Eclipse, Diwali   Pushkar Camel Fair etc.
I am also looking for a roommate.If you have any tips or suggestions please
feel free to send them. Will appreciate it. 
If you know of anyone who may be interested please have them contact:
V.J.'s Exotic Safaris
320 Stevens Ave. Ste.4
Winfield, KS 67156 USA
Ph/Fax:316-221-4085

From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Tue Aug 29 08:08:17 1995
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:07:27 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: labpc17@jinx.sckans.edu
Cc: toml@sover.net

I had a fantastic time!

Note: in India, time is cheap, parts are not.  Make it clear to your
guide/mechanic that the opposite is true for you.  that you do not mind
paying for a new 59cent washer, rather than piece the old one back together
for another 30 miles.

Don't trust the roadside tire patchers.  carry a spare tube, and have them
swap it.  the patching is untrustworthy.  They will think you insane, but
let them.  I had a catastrophic patch failure 1 mile down the road from
a patcher.  Fortunately, it was the rear tire, so I just did the watusi
for a while, but stayed upright.

carry spare nuts 
 bolts- you will lose small hardware all the time.  Again,
since time is cheap, the locals will wait till they need something, then 
hang out the day or so waiting for the part.  Bring locktite.  Enfields are
basically metric.

bring the foam insert ear plugs- available at hardware stores.  Look like
small foam cylinders.

bring a water filter kit- some are cheap, some are expensive.  get one that
removes bacteria.  Try a hiking supply store.  You will be on the road, between
cities.  clean water may be scarce.  bring a canteen to filter into.

enough for now?

tom



From jcook@primenet.com Tue Aug 29 16:41:36 1995
From: Jo Cook 
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:33:08 0000

name=     
make=     Honda
year=     1995
model=     Shadow VLX
condition=     New
price=     
askingprice=     
comments=     Lots of chrome is available as an option.  The ride is very smooth.
 A nice change is the aftermarket pipes that give the bike a Harley sound.

From PeterKoola@aol.com Wed Aug 30 00:29:08 1995
From: PeterKoola@aol.com
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 00:30:11 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Peter Kula
make=     Honda
year=     1985
model=     VF1000R
condition=     2
price=     $2400
a
skingprice=     $3200
comments=     PeterKoola@aol.com

From Ebtaichi@aol.com Thu Aug 31 21:08:08 1995
From: Ebtaichi@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:51:28 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

Dear Tom:
An addendum to my last message thanking you for the t'ai chi page and asking
you to add our classes to the list: please list us as:
Columbia/Laurel, MD   301-953-3115.
Thanks, Tom. Hope to see you in the winter.
Edna

From VLAD@warwick.net Sat Sep  2 01:56:20 1995
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 02:03:18 -0400
From: VLAD@warwick.net (Don Nydam)
To: toml@sover.net



From klrw18@dcci.com Sat Sep  2 11:31:33 1995
From: Keller Williams (Perrin Bietel) 
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 95 09:44:19 -0700

name=     kenneth phillips
make=     norton
year=     1974
model=     commandoe
condition=     exlnt
price=     2400
askingprice=     2400
comments=     f   a  n t a s  t i c    find!!!!!
owner wanted a "good home " for his pride and joy!
to put me on any mailing list,
   kenneth phillips
   3519 mc cormick
   san antonio, tx 78217


From lriddiford@erols.com Sat Sep  2 14:22:22 1995
From: Lane Riddiford 
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 95 14:29:13 -0700

name=     
make=     honda
year=     1984
model=     700s
condition=     excel
price=     2000
askingprice=     2400
comments=     

From harting@pcix.com Sat Sep  2 23:41:24 1995
From: Bill Harding 
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 95 23:48:05 -0700

name=     
make=     triumph
year=     1965
model=     tr6sr
condition=     5
price=     $500.00
askingprice=     not
comments=     

From lab@dictator.poapts.com Sun Sep  3 20:09:39 1995
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 95 19:15:33 -0500
From: lab@dictator.poapts.com
To: toml@sover.net


name=     
make=     suzuki
year=     1980
model=     gs750e
condition=     good
price=     $1000.00
askingprice=     $1200.00
comments=     

From DSpannraft@aol.com Tue Sep  5 20:29:24 1995
From: DSpannraft@aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:53:15 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

interest=     qualities
interest=     Prices
name=     DAN
email=     DSPANNRAFT@AOL.COM
comments=     
GREAT IDEA

From Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi Thu Sep  7 10:53:34 1995
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 95 17:48:25 0000
From: Markku Verkkoniemi 
Organization: Statistics Finland
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: toml@maple.sover.net
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

toml@maple.sover.net (Tom Lichtman) wrote:
>Three years ago, I spent three months on an Enfield Bullet in 
>India.  Two of us flew to Calcutta, and bought 2 350cc bikes.
>
>Fantastic trip, sold the bikes in New Delhi at the end.
>
>Don't buy in Calcutta, miniscule used market.  Buy in New Delhi.
>several dealers there specialize in selling to tourists, and will
>do the paper work for a few dollars.  The used market is Northwest
>of Connaught circle.  Ask for Lolly- you'll know when you find him
>by his crippled leg (motorcycle accident many years ago).
>
>see my web page for a description of getting directions in India.
>http://www.sover.net/~toml
>toml@sover.net
>
>

Would you know the going price for a new Bullet 500 in India? 
I've been planning to ride one home. I think the best place to 
buy them is in Madras, Tamil Nadu, isn't that where they are 
made? Used ones can also be bought fairly cheaply in Goa, too. 

Markku (in Helsinki, Finland)



From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Thu Sep  7 11:07:43 1995
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:04:13 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi
Cc: toml@sover.net

I don't know the current price.  I would go to Madras- I understood
that few 500's were being built, and that they were hard to come by.
None were available new or used in Calcutta, and they were very rare
in New Delhi.

If you buy in Madras, the bike can easily ship by train to elswhere-
saves much time in going north.  figure 200 km a day for travel-
roads are slow.

I understand Goa bikes to be very abused.

Tom

From Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi Thu Sep  7 11:49:26 1995
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 7 Sep 95 18:47:44  0200
From: "Verkkoniemi Markku" 
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman):
>I don't know the current price.  I would go to Madras- I understood
>that few 500's were being built, and that they were hard to come by.
>None were available new or used in Calcutta, and they were very rare
>in New Delhi.
>
>If you buy in Madras, the bike can easily ship by train to elswhere-
>saves much time in going north.  figure 200 km a day for travel-
>roads are slow.
>
That's my plan, buy the bike in Madras, tour in the south, and then 
train it to Delhi. From there I can go tour the Himalayas (maybe 
Himachal Pradesh). Then I can cross the border to Pakistan, put the 
bike in the train to the Iranian border, and then start the long and 
_slooowww_ trip back to Europe. It can be done, if you have the time, 
and your papers are in order.

>I understand Goa bikes to be very abused.
>
That's true, but there are usually quite many to choose from.-

>Tom
>

Markku


From rn@research.att.com Thu Sep  7 12:29:26 1995
To: toml@sover.net
From: rn@big.att.com (Ravi Narayan)
Posted-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 95 12:03:33 -0400
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 95 12:03:33 -0400
Sender: rn@big.att.com

interest=     Motorcycles
interest=     India
name=     Ravi Narayan
email=     rn@research.att.com
comments=     
tom,

i enjoyed reading your piece on travelling in india.
as you may guess from my name, i am from india - madras
to be precise. i am working in new jersey, with at t
bell labs presently. i run my own motorcyle web server
at http://cs.wpi.edu/~ravi/bike.

anyway, i thought i would drop you a note to let you
know how amusing, exact and interesting your piece was.

-- ravi




From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Thu Sep  7 12:41:19 1995
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 95 12:38:39 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi
Cc: toml@sover.net

> From Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi Thu Sep  7 11:49:26 1995
> That's my plan, buy the bike in Madras, tour in the south, and then 
> train it to Delhi. From there I can go tour the Himalayas (maybe 
> Himachal Pradesh). Then I can cross the border to Pakistan, put the 
> bike in the train to the Iranian border, and then start the long and 
> _slooowww_ trip back to Europe. It can be done, if you have the time, 
> and your papers are in order.

Absolutely true about the papers- even then, some problems arise.
Do you need a Carnet?
I have heard tales of people with same plan forced back to India, and
selling their bikes.

Did you see my web page on getting directions in India?

Tom


From Doug.Carlyle@cyberstore.ca Thu Sep  7 23:25:02 1995
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:44:08 -0700
From: "Doug Carlyle@cyberstore.ca" 

name=     Doug C.
make=     Yamaha
year=     1986
model=     Radian
condition=     Ex
price=     1740.00
askingprice=     2300.00
comments=     

From Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi Fri Sep  8 02:37:04 1995
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 8 Sep 95 09:39:43  0200
From: "Verkkoniemi Markku" 
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman):
>> From Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi Thu Sep  7 11:49:26 1995
>> That's my plan, buy the bike in Madras, tour in the south, and then 
>> train it to Delhi. From there I can go tour the Himalayas (maybe 
>> Himachal Pradesh). Then I can cross the border to Pakistan, put the 
>> bike in the train to the Iranian border, and then start the long 
and 
>> _slooowww_ trip back to Europe. It can be done, if you have the 
time, 
>> and your papers are in order.
>
>Absolutely true about the papers- even then, some problems arise.
>Do you need a Carnet?

In Iran, you have to pay a deposit that is about 100 % of the value of 
the bike, if you don't have a carnet. Sometimes this is not enforced 
on bikes, but to be on the safe side it's better to have one.

>I have heard tales of people with same plan forced back to India, and
>selling their bikes.
>

Me too.

>Did you see my web page on getting directions in India?
>
Yeah, it's cool. I haven't been riding in India, yet, but your 
description is hilarious, and describes the 'Indian way' pretty well. 
Sometimes you have to ask for directions, even when using public 
transport. I've always found it better to ask questions that you can't 
answer with a simple Yes or No, like never ask: "Is this road going to 
XXXX?" but "Where's this road going to?". Well, sometimes you get a 
"yes, sir" for every question you make (usually the person you're 
addressing doesn't really understand a word you're saying, more common 
in the north than south).
>Tom
>
Markku

P.S. I sure would like to get an estimate about the price in India, 
and plan accordingly. Do you think I should post a query in 
rec.travel.asia, and maybe even in rec.moto?


From ???@vision.net.au Fri Sep  8 05:50:18 1995
From: ???@vision.net.au
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 17:55:11 0000

name=     DAVE IMPACT
make=     HONDA NSR
year=     1994
model=     NSR 250
condition=     NEW
price=     
askingprice=     
comments=     

From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Fri Sep  8 09:03:09 1995
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:00:16 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi
Cc: toml@sover.net


At the time I was there, a new Enfield was approx. 35,000 rupees.  I do
not think that inflation is to great there, so esitimate new to be about
35,000 to 40,000 (less in Madras, no shipping to dealer).  

Used bikes kept value, and used were about 25,000.

Tom

From James@CFED.ncm.com Fri Sep  8 12:36:40 1995
From: James@CFED.ncm.com
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 12:41:56 -0700

name=     
make=     Honda
year=     1983
model=     CB650SC
condition=     v.good
price=     1700
askingprice=     2000
comments=     

From terry@netc.com.au Sat Sep  9 08:53:51 1995
From: terry@netc.com.au
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 95 22:33:31 -0700

name=     
make=     triumph
year=     1979
model=     bonneville special
condition=     1
price=     $5000 AUSTRALIAN
askingprice=     $5500
comments=     

From jwg2@cts.com Sat Sep  9 20:08:21 1995
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 17:08 PDT
From: "jwg2@cts.com" 

interest=     Motorcycles
name=     Jim Gates
email=     jwg2@cts.com
comments=     Hey Tom!!  I really enjoyed your site!  My particular
interest was MC price history, but actually enjoyed 
your resume..... another defense electronics guy...

But to the point....  How long have you been collecting
pricing data?  Why????  Would be interested in 
trading E-Mail on this topic and also on motorcycle
sales across the Internet.  If interested, send me 
E-Mail.  If not, I'll suspect I'll order the syrup
anyway!

Once again, I really enjoyed your site!!

Take Care!
Jim Gates

From username@mcn.net Sun Sep 10 18:18:26 1995
From: username@mcn.net
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 16:20:52 -0700

name=     Milton
make=     yamaha
year=     1987
model=     V-max
condition=     mint
price=     3800.00
askingprice=     7500.00
comments=     I have found no info on the "MAX" ? What is everyone smoking ? 

From KTrog@aol.com Sun Sep 10 21:46:22 1995
From: KTrog@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:46:12 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

interest=     Tai Chi Chuan
name=     Kent Trogdon
email=     KTrog@aol.com
comments=     Hi Tom
I'm a member of the Virginia School of TCC (for three years).  
Good to see our school is represented among all the other pages.  
Maybe I'll meet you at the new resort in NY one summer.
take care,
           Kent


From Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi Mon Sep 11 06:52:34 1995
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 11 Sep 95 13:55:15  0200
From: "Verkkoniemi Markku" 
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman):
>
>At the time I was there, a new Enfield was approx. 35,000 rupees.  I 
do
>not think that inflation is to great there, so esitimate new to be 
about
>35,000 to 40,000 (less in Madras, no shipping to dealer).  
>
>Used bikes kept value, and used were about 25,000.
>
>Tom
>

What year was that? I got another message from Ravi Narayan below.

Ravi Narayan:

>    i would guess about 60000 rupees which is roughly 2000 us 
dollars.
>    i can get you exact figures if you wish, but i dont think they
>    would differ by much from my estimate.
>
>                                               - ravi
>
>
Thanks a lot. It seems that my total costs (excluding the trip, of 
course) would be anyways only around $1800 in taxes then (includes the 
customs fees etc.), and the total would be around max. $3800. The 
retail price for a Bullet 500 in Finland is FIM 30000,- which is 
around $7000.

So, while I don't think it's feasible to start a trade here, it's 
still worth buying one for personal use this way :-) .
>

Markku

From Waiting2go@aol.com Mon Sep 11 19:03:45 1995
From: Waiting2go@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 19:00:47 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Bill Brandau
make=     Harley Davidson
year=     1981
model=     XLS Roadster
condition=     
Mint
price=     $4500
askingprice=     $4000
comments=     Buyers were bidding up the price sight unseen for
the opportunity to be the first person to look at it.

From Peachew@aol.com Tue Sep 12 01:04:49 1995
From: Peachew@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 00:33:56 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     steve
make=     honda
year=     1993
model=     cbr900rr
condition=     excellent
price=     6800
askingprice=     7100
comments=     

From Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi Tue Sep 12 02:45:10 1995
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 12 Sep 95 09:47:21  0200
From: "Verkkoniemi Markku" 
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman):
>>What year was that? I got another message from Ravi Narayan below.
>
>
>I think 1992- I'll check.
>
>I would be supprised  if the price jumped 20,000 ruppees in 3 years.
>
>Tom
>

Me, too. Anyways, it's going to be worthwhile (and fun) to bring one 
to Europe.

Thanks again,
Markku


From JRANDER@energylan.sandia.gov Tue Sep 12 08:50:33 1995
From: "Anderson, John R." 
To: Tom Lichtman 
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 06:50:00 MDT
Encoding: 7 TEXT


I have been interested in purchasing a 500cc Enfield but have not been able 
to find the appropriate information.
Would you have an address or phone number of a dealer in India?
Are you aware of any reason that an Enfield can not be brought into the 
states?
I look forward to hearing from you.  Thank you.

From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Tue Sep 12 09:01:03 1995
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 09:00:18 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: JRANDER@energylan.sandia.gov

> 
> I have been interested in purchasing a 500cc Enfield but have not been able 
> to find the appropriate information.
> Would you have an address or phone number of a dealer in India?
> Are you aware of any reason that an Enfield can not be brought into the 
> states?
> I look forward to hearing from you.  Thank you.
> 

New or used?

I have been emailing with Markku (Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi)
about his plans to go to India 
 buy a 500cc bullet, and return home
with it.


I will look for the phone # of a dealer I know in New Delhi for used
bikes.  I also have a list of New dealers.  However, I will not be
able to look until sept 24th.

Tom

From JRANDER@energylan.sandia.gov Tue Sep 12 09:39:27 1995
From: "Anderson, John R." 
To: toml 
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 07:25:00 MDT
Encoding: 168 TEXT


Thank you for sending this correspondence to me.  I am interested in 
acquiring a new bike and understand from your messages that you may be able 
to provide me with an address or phone number of dealers towards the end of 
the month.  Thank you.

What is a "carnet"?
I have been emailing with Markku (Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi)
about his plans to go to India 
 buy a 500cc bullet, and return home
with it.


From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Tue Sep 12 10:41:33 1995
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 10:40:53 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: JRANDER@energylan.sandia.gov

> From JRANDER@energylan.sandia.gov Tue Sep 12 09:39:27 1995
> From: "Anderson, John R." 
> To: toml 
> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 07:25:00 MDT
> What is a "carnet"?

ooh boy, carnet.  It is a document that is required by most countries
that have high import duties on vehicles.  It's purpose is to insure
that if you bring your vehicle in, you will take it out again.
How you get one is to put up a bond to a carnet issuer (none in US)
who will then give you the document.  If you should leave a vehicle
somewhere, you forfeit the bond.  Typically, the bond amount is anywhere
from 2 to 3 times the value of the vehicle.  Also a fee is involved.
I think Canada is a source for US travellers.  ESSENTIAL for overland
travel on vehicles.

> I have been emailing with Markku (Markku.Verkkoniemi@stat.fi)
> about his plans to go to India 
 buy a 500cc bullet, and return home
> with it.
> 
>

When do you think you will do this trip?

Tom 


From SLYKDYK@aol.com Tue Sep 12 14:54:50 1995
From: SLYKDYK@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 14:55:58 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     dick love
make=     HD
year=     1948
model=     WL
condition=     2
price=     $8500
askingprice=     $8500
comments=     to Japan

From SLYKDYK@aol.com Tue Sep 12 15:07:21 1995
From: SLYKDYK@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 15:08:31 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     dick love
make=     HD
year=     1968
model=     flh
condition=     2
price=     $9300
askingprice=     $9500
comments=     stock except for carb. has buddy and solo seat,
hard bags,wind screen,fog lights etc.

From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Tue Sep 12 18:57:18 1995
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 18:27:50 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: jwg2@cts.com

> interest=     Motorcycles
> name=     Jim Gates
> email=     jwg2@cts.com
> comments=     Hey Tom!!  I really enjoyed your site!

Thanks!  supprising how little feedback one gets on one's 
pages....


>  My particular
> interest was MC price history, but actually enjoyed 
> your resume.....

I put it up because it was there, and I am suprised how many people
have downloaded it.  No job offers yet, however.

> 
> But to the point....  How long have you been collecting
> pricing data? Why????

For a while.  I collect bikes, and attend auctions.  I had seen
several other motorcycle pages around, and wanted to put up
more than just pix of my bikes.
 
> trading E-Mail on this topic and also on motorcycle
> sales across the Internet.  If interested, send me 
> E-Mail. 

Motorcycle shopper 
http://www.mshopper.eurografix.com

has a site that includes self-submit classified motorcycle ads.

What is your interest in prices?



> Once again, I really enjoyed your site!!

Thanks again, can't hear it enough.
> 
> Take Care!
> Jim Gates
> 

Tom

From BRCLARKE@FWHDEPT.env.gov.bc.ca Wed Sep 13 16:20:14 1995
From: BRCLARKE@FWHDEPT.env.gov.bc.ca
Return-Receipt-To: BRCLARKE@FWHDEPT.env.gov.bc.ca
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:19:00 -0700 (PDT)
To: toml@sover.net
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Encoding: 23 TEXT

I read your WWW report on asking for directions in India very interesting.
Have you considered posting a more lengthy copy of your trip report on the
web?
 
Every winter I fly somewhere warm and rent a motorcycle for a couple fo
weeks.  I have some of my trip reports on the World Wide Web.  Here are the
addresses:
 
Eastern Mexico with Pancho Villa - Apr 94 (text only)
 http://www.digimark.net/rec-travel/north_america/mexico/clarke.trip
 
Costa Rica with Pancho Villa - Jan 95 (only 3 pics)
 http://onpmomma.spk.olivetti.com/WL/stories/tico.html
 
New Zealand - Nov 93 (text only)
 http://www.digimark.net/rec-travel/pacific/new_zealand/trip.clarke
 
New Zealand - Nov 93 (30 pics - slow)
 http://onpmomma.spk.olivetti.com:80/WL/stories/NZJournal.html
 
 
Bruce Clarke   AMA 356285   '90 Kawasaki EX-500
For FAQs, try to login anonymous to the FTP site  ftp.cecm.sfu.ca

From BRCLARKE@FWHDEPT.env.gov.bc.ca Wed Sep 13 17:12:58 1995
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Clarke, Bruce {SO}" 
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Encoding: 11 TEXT

From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
>Originally I was going to publish a manual on how to motorcycle
>in India and Nepal, and just lost steam.

I know what you mean.  When I set up my New Zealand report, it took me a 
whole weekend just to scan in the graphics and set up the GIF links.  

Now I just put up a text file and say good enough.




From BRCLARKE@FWHDEPT.env.gov.bc.ca Thu Sep 14 13:02:05 1995
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Clarke, Bruce {SO}" 
To: toml 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Encoding: 18 TEXT


If you ever do post a more lengthy trip report on India, let me know. 
 Thanks again.
 ----------
From: toml
To: BRCLARKE
Date: Wednesday, September 13, 1995 4:22PM


Thanks for reading my report on directions.

Originally I was going to publish a manual on how to motorcycle
in India and Nepal, and just lost steam.

I have lots of notes, and little time. sigh.

Tom

From thornfrm@ix.netcom.com Thu Sep 14 20:48:21 1995
From: thornfrm@ix.netcom.com
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 20:50:52 -0700

name=     David
make=     Harley  
year=     1996
model=     FLHRI
condition=     new
price=     $16,525
askingprice=     not
comments=     I recenltly saw a 1995 Harley FLHR 
with a couple of thousand miles on it for $19,500

From anonymous@interserv.com Fri Sep 15 02:45:10 1995
From: anonymous@interserv.com
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 23:41:14 -0700
To: toml@sover.net


comments=     
askingprice=     300
price=     
condition=     used
model=     gt-250
year=     74
make=     suzuki
name=     

From MPote@aol.com Fri Sep 15 12:12:50 1995
From: MPote@aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:14:02 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     MIKE POTE
make=     KAWASAKI
year=     1993
model=     ZX-6E
condition=     2
price=     $5,000
askingprice=     $5,500
comments=     Excellent sport bike, first year of ram-air 
almost identical to current production model
except adjustable front suspension.  Only 
drawbacks so far are high clip-ons non-adjustable
rear suspension, and the lack of cornering clearence.

From SKINTQBRAD@aol.com Fri Sep 15 21:44:21 1995
From: SKINTQBRAD@aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 21:41:19 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     BRAD SAUNDERS
make=     HONDA
year=     1993
model=     CR 250
condition=     EXCEL
price=     2,750
askingprice=     3,000
comments=     GREAT BIKE I THINK I STOLE IT!  ONE OF THO
SE DEALS WHERE ONE PERSON OWED ANOTHER AND DID NOT HAVE THE CASH TO PAY SO THE
Y HAD NO USE FOR A DIRT BIKE.  I CLEANED IT UP AND IS LIKE NEW.

From altdot@io.org Fri Sep 15 22:59:15 1995
From: Andrew Regendanz 
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 95 11:34:36 1200

name=     Bruce G.
make=     Honda
year=     1975
model=     MR 50
condition=     great
price=     
askingprice=     
comments=     I would like  any information possible
on this bike and I desperatly need a shop manual
or diagrams on electrical and/or carb
for a tune up.

thanks!

From DSRT@aol.com Sat Sep 16 21:49:53 1995
From: DSRT@aol.com
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 21:46:50 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     WENDELL HAVEN
make=     HARLEY DAVIDSON
year=     1977
model=     SPORTSTER XLH
conditio
n=     VG
price=     3600.00
askingprice=     3800.00
comments=     It had 4" over tubes and a c
hip in the tank,19900 
miles.  Now it has 16" over tubes and 10" hi
gh 
handlebars.  this winter it will get some new 
chrome and a pain
t job.  It has found a permanent
home.

From @Kaos.deepcove.com:s-setatt@deepcove.com Sun Sep 17 02:22:39 1995
From: s-setatt@deepcove.com
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 95 23:17:19 -0700
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Honda
year=     1993
model=     CBR900RR
condition=     2
price=     $8,100
askingprice=     $8,300
comments=     

From Billl42@aol.com Sun Sep 17 12:42:45 1995
From: Billl42@aol.com
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:29:00 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Bill Singleton
make=     HD
year=     1981
model=     FXWG
condition=     fair
price=     4700.00

askingprice=     not
comments=     purchased from friend

From satherar@uwec.edu Mon Sep 18 12:42:39 1995
From: satherar@uwec.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 11:19:09 -0700

name=     Aric Sather
make=     Yamaha
year=     1981
model=     xs650special heritage
condition=     4
price=     $425 - delivered
askingprice=     500 obo
comments=     

From Keith.Mike@Corp.Sun.COM Mon Sep 18 14:38:55 1995
From: Keith.Mike@Corp.Sun.COM (Keith Mike)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 11:44:40 -0700
Sender: Keith.Mike@Corp.Sun.COM

name=     mike
make=     yamaha
year=     89
model=     fz750
condition=     esuper
price=     2'500
askingprice=     3,200
comments=     This bike had 5,700 miles

From steveu@u.washington.edu Mon Sep 18 18:23:14 1995
X-Sender: steveu@saul3.u.washington.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Uhrich 
To: Tom Lichtman 
Mime-Version: 1.0



   I was very pleased to come across your "Tai Chi Chuan Page".  I
   studied the Yang-style, short form here in Seattle for many years,
   (1973-83) from a pupil of Jane 
 Batan Faigo, whom, I believe,  were 
   students of Chen Man Ch'ing in NY and who still run a school, 
   associated with the Naropa School, in Boulder, Co., when last I
   checked.  Batan also published a newsletter for several years, called
   "Full Circle".
  
   During the ten years that I studied faithfully, Ben Lo, another of 
   Chen Man Ch'ing's NY students, now teaching in San Francisco, visited
   and guest taught our group.  When Michael and Sara left Seattle in
   1983 and returned to Boulder, none of the senior students stepped in
   to keep the school alive.  There is a strong Tai Chi community in
   Seattle and Vancouver, Canada; though I've never found a group that
   studies the modified "short-form".

   I was interested to see that neither Batan's nor Ben's schools are
   affiliated with Patrick Watson.  I would assume that they are aware,
   each of the other's schools, though perhaps choosing to remain
   independent.
   

From DCastetter@megaweb.com Mon Sep 18 18:47:16 1995
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 15:13:42
From: DCastetter@megaweb.com (Donald Castetter)
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Donald Fisher
make=     yamaha
year=     1979
model=     rd-400-f
condition=     good
price=     $800
askingprice=     
comments=     send me any info you have on this model. thanks.



From proto@panix.com Mon Sep 18 20:29:24 1995
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 20:31:06 -0400
To: toml@sover.net
From: Walter.Bushell@panix.com

Found you thru search engine on Arica.
http://www.wp.com/walterb
proto@panix.com


From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Tue Sep 19 09:37:03 1995
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 09:36:06 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: steveu@u.washington.edu

I have a number of issues of 'Full Circle'.  Excellent publication.
The School of Tai Chi Chuan publishes a magazine format newsletter also,
called the 'Tai chi Press'.

There is a branch of our school in the Northwest, but I do not know
about Seattle.  I will check.

When the Professor died, his senior students were unable to hang
together.  Each went off on their own, teaching in different ways.
It has been said that to obtain the full picture of what the 
Professor had, you must study with each of his senior students.
Each one had embodied different parts of his art.

Tom

From 102604.214@compuserve.com Wed Sep 20 01:47:32 1995
From: 102604.214@compuserve.com
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 01:26:55 -0400
To: toml@sover.net


comments=     
askingprice=     3000
price=     2900.00
condition=     fair
model=     RZ500N
year=     1985
make=     Yammaha
name=     Ron Roach

From support@azstarnet.com Wed Sep 20 22:07:55 1995
From: StarNet Support 
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 19:10:56 -0700

name=     hall@azstarnet.com
make=     Harley-Davidson
year=     1977
model=     XLT
condition=     2
price=     $3500
askingprice=     Unadvertised
comments=     The bike was in excellent shape with low original miles.
In the classifieds in Tucson I see early-mid 70's Sportsters
for $2500 on a regular basis.

name=     ross
make=     kawasaki
year=     1985
model=     GPZ550
condition=     3
price=     bought for $1000
askingprice=     
comments=     broken turnlights, rusty pipes but oruginal miles
only 3,000.

From Brandon521@aol.com Fri Sep 22 17:17:21 1995
From: Brandon521@aol.com
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 17:17:46 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     brandon
make=     triumph
year=     71
model=     bonniville
condition=     fair
price=     2,500
askingprice=     2,800
comments=     I have restored the bike and put an addiitional
 2,400 into it. The bike is now in great condition.

From murali@eden.com Sun Sep 24 15:20:46 1995
From: murali@eden.com
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 95 13:18:12 -700

interest=     Motorcycles
interest=     India
name=     Murali Soundararajan
email=     murali@eden.com
comments=     Thanks for posting the motorcycle auction prices...
I ride a Yamaha '78 XS750E - 30Kmiles

From Pac56@aol.com Mon Sep 25 01:53:32 1995
From: Pac56@aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 01:49:52 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Triumph
year=     72
model=     tr6
condition=     good
price=     $1000.00
askingprice=     
comments=     I bought from orginal owner He was in 70's 
last I rode it was in 92 been sitting up since.

From IULVR@aol.com Mon Sep 25 22:04:34 1995
From: IULVR@aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:05:42 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

interest=     Motorcycles
name=     MATT
email=     IULVR
comments=     I am looking at an 89 hd sportster, very clean with several extras.  
I saw your page on motorcycle prices and wondered if you could give me an 
idea on price.  They are askin $6999.  It is at a reputable local dealer 
known for quality used bikes.  Any info you could give would be greatly 
appreciated.  I'll let you know info if I buy.  Thanks

From THEMAN@TEXAS.NET Tue Sep 26 14:30:48 1995
From: "Dale E. Moore" 
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 95 18:51:34 0600

name=     
make=     honda
year=     1988
model=     cbr1000f hurricane
condition=     fair
price=     2400
askingprice=     2600
comments=     I found that the market for large cc bikes is strikingly less 
than mid-size bikes.  My previous motorcycle was a 600, and it sold the 
first week.

From steveu@u.washington.edu Tue Sep 26 16:24:01 1995
X-Sender: steveu@saul2.u.washington.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Uhrich 
To: Tom Lichtman 
Mime-Version: 1.0



  Many thanks!  I have family and professional ties in Spokane and may
  find the opportunity to visit with one or several of these folks.


On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Tom Lichtman wrote:
> 
> some people from our school teaching Yang style short form:
> 
> Pam Hunt 509 534-6854
> Birgitt Krause 509 747-7250
> Gil Milner 509 624-4984
> Scott Richter 509 456-5112
> 
> all are in spokane.
> 
> Jean Allen 
 Patrick Donahue
> 
> Portland, 503 246-4131
> 


From Crackleman@aol.com Tue Sep 26 20:13:31 1995
From: Crackleman@aol.com
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:10:25 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     Suzuki
year=     92
model=     GSX-1100G
condition=     NEW
price=     5200
askingprice=     7600
comments=     what do ya think????

From labpc1@jinx.sckans.edu Wed Sep 27 03:31:53 1995
From: labpc1@jinx.sckans.edu
Apparently-From: labpc1@jinx.sckans.edu
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 02:33:09 -0700

interest=     India
name=     Steve
email=     ruggless@jinx.sckans.edu
comments=     Tom,
Thanks a lot for sending your comments about your India trip. 
Sounds like you had a good trip - full of adventure. 
We are getting ready to leave in October.
Hopefully ours will be smoother since it is being lead by Indian 
experts who have been doing these sort of trips for 18 or so years. 
These guys are good and seem to know their country intimately.
Their trips were profiled in several publications like Cycle World, 
City Bike, Motorcycle Consumer News, etc.

We will have a backup vehicle with a support team travelling with 
spare fuel, parts, travelling mechanics, tires etc. Hopefully it
will be a lot smoother than your adventure. If you want to go back
again contact 

Vijay
320 Stevens Ave.%234
Winfield, KS 67156
Ph/Fax%3B316-221-4085 


From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Wed Sep 27 08:43:46 1995
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 08:42:59 EDT
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: labpc1@jinx.sckans.edu


Thanx for visiting my India page, and for your comments.

Good luck on your trip!  Roads are slow- don't expect to cover
great distances each day. TAKE CARE of your health- feeling ill
is a real drag.  Don't brush your teeth with unpurified water.
Wash your hands frequently with soap (bring some, it is not
generally available where you would wash).  I brought my own
water filter canteens.  Bring lots of film.  local film in
India tends to be heat affected.  bring loctite.  Road vibration
will loosen bolts, especially bodywork mountings.  There are no
hardware stores around to just buy replacements easily.  I had my
rear fender drop on and lock up my rear wheel.  By the way, there
is a total eclipse of the sun in October (the 24th?) which will
pass just north of Agra.  Should be phenomenal in  the way of local
reaction.

Tom

From Crackleman@aol.com Wed Sep 27 19:35:13 1995
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 19:36:44 -0400
From: Crackleman@aol.com
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

No actually, heh my Grandpa is a parts dealer who works out of the same
shop... so of course, he knows the owner well...  


and so it goes...heh



From thexman@empirenet.com Thu Sep 28 02:04:12 1995
From: thexman@empirenet.com
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 23:05:02 -0700

name=     thexman@empirenet.com
make=     honda
year=     1987
model=     vfr
condition=     good
price=     $2,300.00
askingprice=     2,700.00
comments=     I wish I could afford a newer Vfr (1993)

From DanIns@aol.com Thu Sep 28 13:37:38 1995
From: DanIns@aol.com
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:03:03 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     InsDan@aol.com
make=     Yamaha
year=     1988
model=     Venture Royale
condition=     excel

price=     bought for $5500.00
askingprice=     $5995
comments=     What a great touring
 bike-handles better than a Wing and is faster than a Wing.

From ssnyder@uwf.cc.uwf.edu Fri Sep 29 13:44:43 1995
From: ssnyder@uwf.cc.uwf.edu
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 12:44:26 -0500

name=     LT Snyder
make=     Suzuki
year=     89
model=     Katana 1100
condition=     Good
price=     
askingprice=     
comments=     Bought for $4000 in July 95

From Scheele@wdc1.westdat.com Sun Oct  1 21:52:42 1995
From: Lee Scheele 
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 95 18:52:05 -0700

interest=     Tai Chi Chuan
name=     Lee Scheele
email=     LScheele@ix.netcom.com
comments=     Most of my TCC background is CMC style, primarily Ben Lo's Midwest Camp.  
Am currently out in Orange County, CA and was wondering who is teaching out 
in the LA area.  I'm studying with a Wu stylist friend of Ben's since 
moving out to the West Coast a couple of years ago, but like to know who
is around.

BTW,  I surfed over to your page from
Alex's Web site in Germany.

Regards,

Lee Scheele

From kyriakos@cch.com Mon Oct  2 13:21:24 1995
From: KYRIAKOS DIMITRAKIS 
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 95 12:26:54 -700

name=     
make=     KAWASAKI
year=     1986
model=     ZX 600
condition=     3
price=     1,800.00
askingprice=     1,800.00
comments=     

From MARTINI51@aol.com Tue Oct  3 20:04:30 1995
From: MARTINI51@aol.com
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 20:05:42 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     JUDY MARTINI
make=     HARLEY DAVIDSON
year=     1995
model=     883 DELUXE
condition=     GO
OD
price=     $8500.00
askingprice=     $8500.00
comments=     LIST OF EXTRAS: WINDSHIE
LD, ENGINE GUARD, SISSY BAR AND BACKREST,
DIFFERENT SEAT, LOTS OF
 CHROME EXTRAS. LOW MILEAGE.
4,000 MILES. MUST SEE.

From pomeroy@netzone.com Tue Oct  3 21:55:36 1995
From: Blair Pomeroy 
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 95 19:00:54 -0700

interest=     India
name=     Blair Pomeroy
email=     pomeroy@netzone.com
comments=     From Scottsdale, AZ:
In-laws just purchased Pritchard (?) farm on route
30.  You may recognize it by the big yellow barn. 
They are now building a classic Colonel home on 
farm.  We spent the month of June in Dorsett - 
beautiful but overrun with NYC country club types.
Search the www for Pawlet and your home page 
popped up.  Look out for Bob and Stella White, both
around 60 yrs.  Bob spends a lot of time with his
large male german sheppard.  

From conwaycc@auburn.campus.mci.net Tue Oct  3 22:36:30 1995
From: conwaycc 
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 95 21:41:24 -0700

name=     John Cable
make=     HD
year=     1981
model=     FXE Super Glide
condition=     2
price=     10,500
askingprice=     11,000
comments=     

From ccapel@mindspring.com Wed Oct  4 00:46:55 1995
From: Creighton Capel 
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 95 00:46:39 -0500

name=     
make=     Yamaha
year=     1993
model=     Seca II
condition=     New
price=     4000.00
askingprice=     
comments=     Brand New 1993 Yamaha Seca II. It came with chin
fairing which is not stock on 1993 models.

From m-23683@mailbox.swipnet.se Wed Oct  4 14:25:57 1995
From: Kundnummer=     999966 
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 95 18:29:36 -0100

name=     Anders Erm%E9n
make=     Triumph
year=     1957
model=     T-110 Tiger
condition=     3
price=     USD 4 000.-
askingprice=     USD 4 300.-
comments=     Customized, very low, new paint, new clutch, new electr.

From c342758@hi5003.mdc.com Wed Oct  4 19:45:37 1995
From: Roscoe Litchard III 
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 95 16:48:08 -0700
Sender: c342758@hi5003.mdc.com

name=     
make=     kawasaki
year=     1993
model=     zx-7
condition=     new
price=     7300.00
askingprice=     7500.00
comments=     

From vtucker@worldbank.org Thu Oct  5 13:44:07 1995
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 13:26:49 -0400
From: vtucker 
To: toml@sover.net
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

name=     TIM AUSTIN
make=     HARLEY DAVIDSON
year=     1996
model=     FLSTF
condition=     MINT
price=     15,900
askingprice=     
comments=     


From postmaster@aloha-cafe.com Thu Oct  5 18:41:39 1995
From: postmaster@aloha-cafe.com
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 95 22:43:18 1000

name=     n/a
make=     HARLEY DAVIDSON
year=     1995
model=     HERITAGE CLASSIC
condition=     NEW
price=     17300.00
askingprice=     17800.oo
comments=     

From chocho@primenet.com Thu Oct  5 20:40:44 1995
From: CAP-K6UIY 
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 95 17:49:13 -700

name=     CAP
make=     HARLEY DAVIDSON
year=     1956
model=     74FLH ELECTRO GLIDE
condition=     VERY GOOD
price=     
askingprice=     $12,000.00
comments=     This machine is for sale at this time.The price is
$12,000.00 cash,or will trade for antique aeroplane.
Reply via E-Mail on the internet.
chocho@primenet.com


From thaering@blitz.chemie.uni-ulm.de Fri Oct  6 09:02:42 1995
From: thomas haering 
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 95 13:13:26 -700

name=     thomas haering
make=     suzuki 
year=     1978
model=     GT 250
condition=     3
price=     
askingprice=     2000 DM
comments=     

From 94stang@omni.voicenet.com Fri Oct  6 12:34:40 1995
From: "Robert O. Hatfield" <94stang@omni.voicenet.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 95 12:35:16 -700

name=     Robert Hatfield
make=     Suzuki
year=     1982
model=     GS450T
condition=     Excellent
price=     500.00

From A6torello@aol.com Sat Oct  7 17:16:07 1995
From: A6torello@aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 17:13:06 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

I just was one your web page and  you mentioned that you were gathering info
on  motorcycle pricing.

 I own a 1990 Yamaha FZR 600 with 8700 miles. Stage one jet kit,  pipe a
Corbin seat (what a difference). It's in very good condition. It's never been
down and has been garaged.

I am looking at a 1993 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-11 with 6600 miles on it. I was
wondering what the bike is selling for and what I could get for mine. Any
info you have would be greatly appreciated. 

I searched  the web to see if there were any used pricing guides but no luck.
I don't know who to call because bank's that I call only have prices on cars.

Thanks
Alex

From WANKJAMIE@aol.com Mon Oct  9 00:45:06 1995
From: WANKJAMIE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:46:32 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Jamie Wankum
make=     HD
year=     96
model=     Sportster custom 1200
condition=     new
price=     9385
askingprice=     same
comments=     First Harley ever bought.  First time not being able to negotiate
on the price of a vehicle.  I hope it holds it value because I would like
to upgrade next year.  Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks

From jcr6192@calclab.math.tamu.edu Mon Oct  9 14:21:35 1995
From: Joshua Racca 
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 95 13:22:41 -0500
Sender: jcr6192@calclab.math.tamu.edu

name=     
make=     Suzuki
year=     94
model=     DR125SE
condition=     1
price=     2000
askingprice=     2000
comments=     

From ODataWay@aol.com Wed Oct 11 06:37:25 1995
From: ODataWay@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:05:52 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     John Branson
make=     BMW
year=     88
model=     R100 RT
condition=     Exc
price=     5,000
askingprice=     5,500
comments=     Like new condition, 10k miles, sold summer of 94
sold to first buyer

From Kimjoe23@aol.com Wed Oct 11 09:54:12 1995
From: Kimjoe23@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:55:13 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

From coretec@primenet.com Wed Oct 11 10:23:57 1995
From: JAY JOBES 
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 95 07:19:33 -700

name=     Jay Jobes
make=     Yamaha
year=     1986
model=     FZ750
condition=     good
price=     1700.00
askingprice=     2100.00
comments=     Purchased in Ca.  Prices are much cheaper there
Than in Idaho.  I have had offers for 2800.00 In the last week


From jakkerm@hzsig01.ns-nl.att.com Wed Oct 11 19:07:49 1995
From: jakkerm@hzsig01.ns-nl.att.com
To: toml@sover.net
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 13:55:45 0100
Sender: jakkerm@hzsig01.att.com

name=     
make=     Yamaha
year=     1988
model=     RD 350
condition=     good
price=     3500 US Dollar
askingprice=     3500 US dollar
comments=     I live in the Netherlands, a country next to Germany, the country
were no speed limit exists.  My motorcycle is treated well for a 2-stroke
machine, always drove very fast, this machine is build for that.
The motor is completely revised for 1500 US Dollar and in good shape, with
45000 km it is a fair price


From leefatt@ncat.edu Thu Oct 12 18:59:02 1995
From: Michelle Leefatt 
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 19:01:26 -700

interest=     Motorcycles
name=     M. Leefatt
email=     leefatt@ncat.edu
comments=     I feel it is my duty to make every motorcycle owner aware of
the following info.  Motorcycle Consumer News, Volume 26, Number 2,
February 1995 states that out of the top 10 motorcycle alarms The
Quorum Alarm ranks %231... Well for months I searched to buy this
alarm - now I have found a distributor of Quorum that sells the alarm
for approximately $131 plus SandH  by the name of Greyni Patterson at
(910) 375-9371 or 375-8444..this alarm can not be bought
by none other than a distributor.  It works, it's easy to install, and
it is at a reasonable cost.  What can you lose by trying it. 
Read the article!  Thanks to all my fellow motorcycle ownewrs.....

From dblanchard@mayfield.hp.com Thu Oct 12 20:11:43 1995
From: dblanchard@mayfield.hp.com
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 17:13:32 -0700

name=     Dave Blanchard
make=     Honda
year=     85
model=     Goldwing Limited
condition=     4
price=     1000
askingprice=     4000
comments=     Bike was held by a lady in payment for a debt by 
her boyfriend. Hadn't run in three years. Still not alive.Won't be long.

From PBoiney@megaweb.com Fri Oct 13 19:14:22 1995
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:14:43
From: PBoiney@megaweb.com (Peter Boiney)
To: toml@sover.net

name=     peter
make=     yamaha
year=     1981
model=     400 special
condition=     good
price=     700.00
askingprice=     700.00
comments=     picked it up with my wife as her first bike (my
first in 12 years, matter of fact). Best bike at a
low cost we could find in this over priced frickin'
state we call home. VT 
 btw wouldn't mind reasonable financing on a reasonably
priced rig either.



From johnsonm@escmail.orl.mmc.com Fri Oct 13 19:30:44 1995
From: johnsonm@escmail.orl.mmc.com
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 19:28:48 -0400
Sender: johnsonm@escmail.orl.mmc.com

name=     
make=     Harley Davidson
year=     1994
model=     Sportster 1200
condition=     Ex.
price=     8000
askingprice=     8000
comments=     Bought from Dealer Only option - short sissy bar 3200 mi.

From JWint2650@aol.com Fri Oct 13 21:52:06 1995
From: JWint2650@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 21:47:59 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     JWint
make=     Harley D.
year=     1994
model=     FLHR (RaodKing)
condition=     ShowR

price=     $16,900
askingprice=     $16,900
comments=     Very few options on the bike at the time of the sale.  The bike
could have been sold for at least $17,900 but I sold it to the dealer
where I'm going to get my new bike.  The bike sold for $13,600 new. 
When will it stop, soon I hope!

From rjedlick@ben.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us Sun Oct 15 01:04:39 1995
From: rjedlick@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 95 21:59:33 -0700

name=     Robert Jedlicka
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1995
model=     Vulcan 1500
condition=     new
price=     $8100
askingprice=     $8500
comments=     

From willrobb@ilhawaii.net Mon Oct 16 03:19:12 1995
From: William Robbiano 
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 95 21:21:05 -700

name=     
make=     Harley Davidson FLH
year=     1972
model=     
condition=     good
price=     7500
askingprice=     8000
comments=     

From Kbrewer132@aol.com Tue Oct 17 00:03:48 1995
From: Kbrewer132@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 23:57:12 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

interest=     Motorcycles
name=     BILL CURDO
email=     Kbrewer@aol.com
comments=     I have been looking for the numbers of harley dealers in europe.
Not much luck. If you could send me some info, I would appreciate it. You
can e-mail me or fax at (603) 772-8272. Thanks in advance

From JElkas@aol.com Tue Oct 17 21:06:03 1995
From: JElkas@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 21:07:03 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     Jeff Elkas
make=     Triumph
year=     1972
model=     Bonneville (T120)
condition=     4

price=     $900
askingprice=     
comments=     This is my first motorcycle.  I fell in love with
Triumphs and was able to find this one in reasonable shape for
rebuilding.  It needs quite a few parts and I'm looking for original
parts in good shape.

Any ideas?

From JElkas@aol.com Tue Oct 17 21:58:40 1995
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 22:00:11 -0400
From: JElkas@aol.com
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

I live near Springfield, MA.  I've attended "Triumph Day" two years.  It's a
gathering of British bikes only.  There is competition for a number of
categories as well as the flea market crowd.  There were some decent parts,
but I wasn't ready to buy at the time.  Now I know what I want, so I'm
looking more seriously.

I have a subscription to Old Bike Journal.  I also live near Moore's Cycle in
Hartford which has a lot of parts.  I'm not sure they're all original (NOS)
though.

My bike is a '72 T120 Bonneville.  It's a five-speed.  I don't think it has
any great value but I think I should try to keep it as original as possible.
 Do you agree?  What about the color scheme.  It was an ugly gold with white
on the tank.  I'd like to keep the original design, but get away from the
base gold color.

Sorry to ramble.  This is probably more than you counted on.

Can you point me to any additional forums, etc. that are involved in fixing
up Triumphs?  I'd like to learn as much about them as possible.  What's a
good club to join?

Thanks for responding and also for any additional info.

From Docharl@aol.com Thu Oct 19 14:40:24 1995
From: Docharl@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 13:45:29 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     DR ALAN CHENMAN
make=     HARLEY-DAVIDSON
year=     1995
model=     FXSTSB - BAD BOY
condition=     NEW
price=     $14,200.00
askingprice=     
comments=     DEALER TACKED ON $400 
TO LIST.

From BTurby@aol.com Thu Oct 19 14:43:04 1995
From: BTurby@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:49:36 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     honda
year=     1980
model=     cb400t
condition=     3
price=     275
askingprice=     400

comments=     some parts needed repair.  the mileage was 14000.

From BTurby@aol.com Thu Oct 19 14:48:19 1995
From: BTurby@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:47:49 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     
make=     yamaha
year=     1982
model=     maxim
condition=     2
price=     1200
askingprice=     1500
comments=     the bike had been repainted but all else was mint. 
the mileage was 7900

From JElkas@aol.com Thu Oct 19 18:45:55 1995
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 18:47:34 -0400
From: JElkas@aol.com
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com

Thanks, Tom, for all the info.

Maybe I'll see you at Triumph Day next year.


From guldam@sirius.com Fri Oct 20 01:23:22 1995
From: guldam@sirius.com
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 22:28:43 0000

name=     guldam
make=     Yamaha
year=     1986
model=     SRX600
condition=     Good
price=     $1500
askingprice=     $2000
comments=     Singles of this type are very popular in San Francisco.

Their value seems to be very stable. Thump Thump.

From CRuss83704@aol.com Fri Oct 20 22:01:30 1995
From: CRuss83704@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 21:54:54 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=     cliff russ
make=     HD
year=     1964
model=     flh
condition=     2
price=     
askingprice=     
comments=     

From gfreeman@winternet.com Sat Oct 21 20:10:24 1995
From: Greg Freeman 
Posted-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 19:03:54 -0500
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 95 19:04:15 -0700

name=     Greg Freeman
make=     Honda
year=     1982
model=     CB750SC Nighthawk
condition=     4
price=     300
askingprice=     350
comments=     Runs strong, needs paint, needs pipes, needs battery.  Sat
for 1 yr while owner was riding his new Shadow.

name=     Greg Freeman
make=     Honda
year=     1981
model=     CB750C Custom
condition=     3
price=     500(incl. some gear)
askingprice=     600 (incl. gear)
comments=     Leaky fork seals, bent triple trees, needs tune-up and battery,
but cosmetically fine.  Bought beat-up leather jacket, old Sears chaps,
Sprint (K-mart) helmet, and cover for the price.

name=     Greg Freeman
make=     Suzuki
year=     1980
model=     GS550L
condition=     3-4
price=     300
askingprice=     Orig450-down to 300
comments=     Owner moved to New Mexico and needed to dump it. 
NEeds tune-up, pipes, and side cover.

name=     Greg Freeman
make=     Yamaha
year=     1983
model=     Seca 900
condition=     3-4
price=     700
askingprice=     850
comments=     Owner moved to California. Bike was dumped and will need
a gasket repaired as well as the fairing welded.  Might need new
steering head bearing and starter motor rebuild,

name=     Greg Freeman
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1982
model=     LTD 1000
condition=     2-3
price=     875
askingprice=     1150, then 1000
comments=     Needs a leaky gasket repaired, otherwise in cosmetically
good shape.  Needs tune-up and carb cleaning.

From Tom.Merk@mri.com Sun Oct 22 23:11:26 1995
From: Tom.Merk@mri.com (Thomas Merklein)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 95 20:04:24 -0700
Sender: Tom.Merk@mri.com

name=     Tom Merklein
make=     Kawasaki
year=     1981
model=     KZ 550
condition=     3
price=     700
askingprice=     750
comments=     It's a good first bike.  I had it checked out by a
motorcycle shop and they deemed it to be in decent
shape (good compression, etc.).  It probably needs
a valve adjustment, a new chain and sprockets, 
and a back drum brake adjustment.  It also leaks
oil (needs adding every ~250 miles) -- the shop 
said it was coming from a couple of engine gaskets
(not sure which ones). There was a little rust on
the forks (can't remember where).

Nevertheless, it hasn't given me any trouble in 
the few weeks I've had it.  I just use it for 
commuting.

From prabhakar@vt.edu Mon Oct 23 12:05:04 1995
From: prabhakar@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 16:06:53 0400

interest=     Motorcycles
interest=     India
name=     Prabhakar
email=     prabhakar@vt.edu
comments=     Hi there,

I'm thrilled to find you on the net and read thru'
your "Asking for Directions in India". Very true.
They couldn't be any more precise.

How did you like the Enfields back in India? Some
brutes, aren't they? I've had some fun with those
a couple of years ago (while I was in India). How do
they compare with the Harleys here?

Well, just chanced upon your page and thought would
say hai.

Cheers!

-Prabhakar.

From toml Mon Oct 23 12:35:07 1995
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 12:34:12 EDT
From: toml (Tom Lichtman)
To: prabhakar@vt.edu

> I'm thrilled to find you on the net and read thru'
> your "Asking for Directions in India". Very true.
> They couldn't be any more precise.

Thanks very much for the complement.  I appreciate your taking time
to give me feedback.


> 
> How did you like the Enfields back in India? Some
> brutes, aren't they? I've had some fun with those
> a couple of years ago (while I was in India). How do
> they compare with the Harleys here?

Hard to compare them, it's like apples and oranges.  The Enfield
is a 350cc single, with very low gearing.  Frequent repairs.

the Harley is 1340cc twin, with US highway gearing.  About twice
the size 
 weight.

where they are similar, is in old, old engine design; reputation
in their respective countries.  I often tell people here that the
Bullet is the 'Harley of India'.

Thanks,
Tom

From: john degroat 
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 12:05:18 -0700

name=     jdegroat@airmail.net
make=     harley davidson
year=     1994
model=     fxsts
condition=     new
price=     $16k
askingprice=     $16.5
comments=     

From rprimm@ux.accesscom.net Mon Oct 23 17:32:20 1995
From: Randy Primm 
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 16:33:04 -700

name=    Randy Primm
make=    Buell
year=    1995
model=    Thunderbolt S2
condition=    new
price=    $10,500
askingprice=    $11,900
comments=    Bought new from dealer. Bargained him down from the list price.
I also ride a 1991 Sportster which I modified for performance and appearance.
Look in the December issue of Thunder Alley magazine. I found your page under
Tai Chi. I'm thinking of beginning lessons. I've gotten too old to continue
Taekwondo. (44 years old / 1st Degree Black Belt.) Any advice on Tai Chi in
New Orleans? I rode a 1972 Triumph Trident 750 from 1976 through 1987. My
cousin rode a 1972 Norton Commando. My other buddy had a 1972 Bonneville.
We all wish we had never sold them! Do you know of any road-racing schools
down south? Might be fun on my Buell. REPrimm@aol.com.

From JWiniar813@aol.com Mon Oct 23 19:10:25 1995
From: JWiniar813@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:11:38 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=    jerry w
make=    honda
year=    1984
model=    vt700c shadow
condition=    3
price=    1500.00
askingprice=    1500.00
comments=    

name=    jerry w
make=    honda
year=    1985
model=    vt500 shadow
condition=    2
price=    1500.00
askingprice=    1500.00
comments=    low miles under 3500..like new

name=    jerry w
make=    yamaha
year=    1985
model=    maxim 750
condition=    3
price=    700.00
askingprice=    900.00
comments=    low miles under 7500..needed about 300.00 in partsw

name=    jerry w
make=    honda
year=    1981
model=    cb750f
condition=    2
price=    500.00
askingprice=    600.00
comments=    supersport model..new paint..very good shape...we sold t
he bike for 900.00..it will be up for sale for 1400.00 in spring...

From pieman@sover.net Mon Oct 23 19:20:57 1995
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:29:41 -0400
X-Sender: pieman@sover.net. (Unverified)
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: toml@sover.net
From: pieman@sover.net (Bruce Maynard)

greetings.
I have a need to discover whether there is a suitable tasty sugar free
product for maple syrup. I would appreciate it if you could advise me if
such a product exists, either here or elsewhere. Also i am new to the web
page concept and am curious ifthe experience has proven to be exciting for
you as a web site.
please respond to pieman@sover.net
best wishes,
bruce Maynard



From kpeters@falcon.cc.ukans.edu Tue Oct 24 08:24:22 1995
From: kpeters@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 06:33:00 -0700
To: toml@sover.net
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

name=    kenneth peters
make=     Norton
year=    1973
model=    850 Commando
condition=    good
price=    3500
askingprice=    4100
comments=    

From toml Tue Oct 24 09:33:05 1995
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 09:31:52 EDT
From: toml (Tom Lichtman)
To: pieman@sover.net

> greetings.
> I have a need to discover whether there is a suitable tasty sugar free
> product for maple syrup. I would appreciate it if you could advise me if
> such a product exists, either here or elsewhere. Also i am new to the web
> page concept and am curious ifthe experience has proven to be exciting for
> you as a web site.
> please respond to pieman@sover.net
> best wishes,
> bruce Maynard
> 

Off hand, I do not know of any sugar-free maple product.  I will ask 
around, and if I find anything out I will relay.  There is someone in
Arlington VT who is marketing maple-water, but I do not know if it is
surgar free (I think it is).


Yes!  Putting out pages has been exciting.  Only a little bit of 
feedback from viewers, but all positive.  It's very personal, like
self-publishing.

Tom

toml@sover.net 


From someone@mc.nhmccd.cc.tx.us Wed Oct 25 18:01:40 1995
From: someone@mc.nhmccd.cc.tx.us
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 16:56:50 -0700

interest=   Tai Chi Chuan
name=   pdc
email=   a08
comments=   Iam a new learner and love this form

From WillN95@aol.com Fri Oct 27 18:39:10 1995
From: WillN95@aol.com
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:30:09 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

name=   Jerry Netkin
make=   Harley Davidson
year=   1991
model=   FXRS-SP
condition=   1
price=   $12,500
askingprice=   $13,900
comments=   This bike was driven only 170 miles and stored.
I purchased in March, '95 all original and almost perfect.

From ltdws@airmail.net Fri Oct 27 23:37:04 1995
From: Dennis Stewart 
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 22:16:17 -700

name=   
make=   H-D
year=   1992
model=   FLHTC
condition=   Good
price=   $14,500.00
askingprice=   $14,800.00

From WRIBETH@aol.com Sat Oct 28 13:35:17 1995
From: WRIBETH@aol.com
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 13:25:59 -0400
To: toml@sover.net

make=   H-D SPORTSTER
year=   1993
model=   883 HUGGER
condition=   NEW
price=   $5600.00
askingprice=   $5900.00

From User@Host.colorado.edu Sun Oct 29 20:15:50 1995
From: User@Host.colorado.edu
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 01:06:34 0700

make=   yamaha
year=   1981
model=   sr500
condition=   fair
price=   $700 (US)
askingprice=   $850

From ejs3@lehigh.edu Sun Oct 29 23:33:24 1995
From: ERIC JAMES SALERNO 
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 23:24:03 -0800

interest=   Motorcycles
name=   Eric Salerno
email=   ejs3@lehigh.edu
comments=   Hi, I saw that you are watching motorcycle prices,
and I am currently in the process of deciding 
whether or not to buy what would be my first bike.
I am 20 years old, and still in college, (mom and
dad are paying the bill) and so far the threat has
been that if I get a bike, I can kiss my college $$
good bye.  Well, last weekend, mom and dad told me 
that they are interested in a Honda Helix, and we 
went looking at bikes and helixes.  They have 
thoughts about eventually getting a Goldwing, 
anyways, looking at all those bikes was literally 
making my mouth water, and I decided that I would
work on breaking down my parents position on 
owning a bike.  Well, no sooner than three days
after I came back to school, a person I work with
(I am an intern this semester) tells me that he 
is selling!
 his bike.  He is selling his 1988 
Suzuki GS850 with 7,000 miles on it, never been 
scratched, oil changes every 1,500 miles, and well 
stored.    All this is 1,200 bucks, and I have 
been told that it is a steal, and that I should 
take it.  I would like to know your thoughts on 
this.  Partly to help me decide, and another is to 
help to convince my parents it is a good idea.
Sorry for all the extra bull----, but just wanted 
to convey the whole story. 
Thank you for your time,
sincerely,
Eric Salerno
ejs3@lehigh.edu

From Eightycube@aol.com Mon Oct 30 14:30:04 1995
From: Eightycube@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 14:31:00 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name=   David Shepard
make=   Triumph
year=   1972
model=   Tiger 650cc
condition=   Good
price=   $1300
askingprice=   $1400
comments=   A very sweet bike, good handling, smooth powerband.
Needs some clutch work, brakes.  Resleeved the carb, (the need
for this is a design feature of Brit bikes, and if you don't do
it, there is a recurring problem of sticking throttles

From toml Mon Oct 30 14:59:44 1995
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 14:58:05 EST
From: toml (Tom Lichtman)
To: ejs3@lehigh.edu


Thanks for the lengthy response.  I'll see if I can respond in a 
usefull way....

>and I am currently in the process of deciding 
>whether or not to buy what would be my first bike.
>I am 20 years old,

>He is selling his 1988 Suzuki GS850

I don't know anything about you, like coordination, sports/physical
prowess, sensibility/recklessness, etc.

Given that, I would say that I would advise a smaller bike to start.
several reasons:

1) much much easier to learn on a lighter bike.

2) insurance costs much much less.  Certain bikes are called
'performance bikes' by insurance companies, and they charge mega
bucks, especially for your age.  'standard' bikes are less, and often
under 500cc is much less.  ps, when insuring your bike, give them the
true CC engine size, not name size.  i.e., a Honda CB450 is really 446
CC's.  If the insurance rate is higher for 450CC or higher, you get the
cheaper rate.  

3) you will drop your first bike.  Period.  get one you won't care about.

4) a more 'sensible' bike will win over your parents better.  Soon you
can sell your first, and buy a better/bigger bike.  Play the long game,
don't go for broke first shot, and have them reject the bike.  Warm them
up buy starting small.

5) take a riding course.  Motorcycle Safety or other.  Again, lower
insurance 
 better PR with Mom 
 Dad.

6)  Motorcycling is fantastic on ANY bike- doesn't have to be fast,
cool, or new.

7)  Remember, cycling is DANGEROUS.  People get maimed or DIE.  I have
personally seen accidents, broken bones, etcetera.  The addage is, 'If
you ride long enough, you will fall down.'  Always dress for the fall,
not the ride.  NEVER,NEVER without gloves.  Hands are the first to hit
whatever the speed of the get-off.  Protective clothing a Must.  Show 
your parents how conservative you are, not how reckless.  Talk safety
from the start.  Acknowledge risk, 
 how you will minimize it.

Tom


From FiremanJay@aol.com Mon Oct 30 22:47:36 1995
From: FiremanJay@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:48:44 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name=  Jay Thomas
make=  harley
year=  1990
model=  springer softail
condition=  great
price=  12,000
askingprice=  12,000
comments=  bought it from an acquaintance really like it

From Pablo.tiac.net@zork.tiac.net Tue Oct 31 05:36:07 1995
From: Paul Belkus 
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 05:38:40 -800

name=  Paul Belkus
make=  Kawi
year=  1986
model=  KLR 600 (Dual Sport)
condition=  excellent 
price=  $1,800
askingprice=  $2,100
comments=  This bike was owed by a lady who only rode it on
the street. A terrific buy for me considering it 
has electric start, front disc brake, and a 4 
stroke water cooled engine. In 1986, these were 
features not found on many dual sport bikes, 
if any.  The bike had 2,800 miles on it when I 
purchased it last spring. A new dual sport 650
Kawi runs about $4,900 in the Boston area.

From BBLACK@dpcmail.dukepower.com Wed Nov  1 16:24:40 1995
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 17:24:04 EST
From: "Bradley N Black" 
Encoding: 23 Text
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)

     I appreciate the response. I'll call those contacts and may get 
     another reference. Mount Pleasant is reachable.
     
     Thanks!


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman) at INTERNET
Date:    11/1/95 3:36 PM


     
I looked at the staff list for our school-
     
South Carolina:
     
Mount Pleasant:  803 849-6640 Chaz Walter 
Sullivan's Island: 803 883-9626 Kathleen Post
     
That is the closest, I am afraid. (other than Virginia)
     
Tom


From andrews_a@COSCC.CC.TN.US Wed Nov  1 20:03:45 1995
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 19:04:48 -0600 (CST)
Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by COSCC.COSCC.CC.TN.US
From: andrews_a@COSCC.CC.TN.US (Alan L. Andrews)
To: toml@sover.net
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

Never mind, I can include it here.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rules-of-the-road from India
  Most Indian road users observe a version of the Highway Code based
  on a Sanskrit text. These 12 rules of the Indian road are published
  for the first time in English.
ARTICLE I
  The assumption of immortality is required of all road users.
ARTICLE II
  Indian traffic, like Indian society,is structured on a strict caste  
system.
  The following precedence must be accorded at all times. In descending
  order, give way to: cows, elephants, heavy trucks, buses, official  
cars,
  camels, light trucks, buffalo, Jeeps, ox-carts, private cars,  
motorcycles,
  scooters, auto-rickshaws, pigs, pedal rickshaws, goats, bicycles  
(goods-
  carrying), handcarts, bicycles (passenger-carrying), dogs,  
pedestrians.
ARTICLE III
  All wheeled vehicles shall be driven in accordance with the maxim:
  to slow is to falter, to brake is to fail, to stop is defeat.
  This is the Indian drivers' mantra.
ARTICLE IV
  Use of horn (also known as the sonic fender or aural amulet):
  Cars (IV,1,a-c): Short blasts (urgent) indicate supremacy, ie in  
clearing
  dogs, rickshaws and pedestrians from path.
  Long blasts (desperate) denote supplication, ie to oncoming truck,
  "I am going too fast to stop, so unless you slow down we shall both  
die".
  In extreme cases this may be accompanied by flashing of headlights  
(frantic).
  Single blast (casual) means "I have seen someone out of India's 870  
million
  whom I recognise", "There is a bird in the road (which at this speed
  could go through my windscreen)" or "I have not blown my horn for
  several minutes."
  Trucks and buses (IV,2,a): All horn signals have the same meaning,
  viz, "I have an all-up weight of approximately 12.5 tons and have no
  intention of stopping, even if I could."
  This signal may be emphasised by the use of headlamps (insouciant).
  Article IV remains subject to the provision of Order of Precedence
  in Article II above
ARTICLE V
  All maneuvres, use of horn and evasive action shall be left until
  the last possible moment.
ARTICLE VI
  In the absence of seat belts (which there is), car occupants shall  
wear
  garlands of marigolds. These should be kept fastened at all times.
ARTICLE VII
  Rights of way: Traffic entering a road from the left has priority.
  So has traffic from the right, and also traffic in the middle.
  Lane discipline (VII,1): All Indian traffic at all times and  
irrespective
  of direction of travel shall occupy the centre of the road.
ARTICLE VIII
  Roundabouts: India has no roundabouts. Apparent traffic islands in the
  middle of crossroads have no traffic management function. Any other
  impression should be ignored.
ARTICLE IX
  Overtaking is mandatory. Every moving vehicle is required to overtake
  every other moving vehicle, irrespective of whether it has just
  overtaken you.
  Overtaking should only be undertaken in suitable conditions, such as  
in
  the face of oncoming traffic, on blind bends, at junctions and in the
  middle of villages/city centres. No more than two inches should be
  allowed between your vehicle and the one you are passing - and one  
inch
  in the case of bicycles or pedestrians.
ARTICLE X
  Nirvana may be obtained through the head-on crash.
ARTICLE XI
  Reversing: no longer applicable since no vehicle in India has reverse  
gear.
ARTICLE XII
  The 10th incarnation of God was as an articulated tanker


From tenor@donjose.win.net Fri Nov  3 22:19:07 1995
	id sma009091; Fri Nov  3 22:23:22 1995
Message-ID: <309B1222.2EE0@donjose.win.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 23:11:30 -0800
From: "Joseph R. Davidson" 
To: toml@sover.net

name=  
make=  Kawasaki
year=  1980
model=  440 LTD
condition=  dead
price=  $150.00
askingprice=  $300.00
comments=  I bought it to repair for my wife. I spent another 
$500.00 on it new seat, lights, started, and tires.


From acahn@PBS.ORG Sat Nov  4 12:09:30 1995
 id <01HX8TCEXKUO99FHD4@pbsvax.pbs.org>; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:59:27 EST
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 95 12:06:35 -2400
From: Alice Cahn 
To: toml@sover.net
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

name=  
make=  Honda
year=  1980
model=  CM400A
condition=  OK
price=  
askingprice=  ??
comments=  Any advice on what's an appropriate price to ask
for a bike like this? It's 15 years old, has about
10,500 miles on it, runs well, needs a good 
cleaning, but other than that it's a good bike. 
If you can help, please email me at acahn@pbs.org.
Thanks.  


From DVentola@aol.com Sat Nov  4 18:50:18 1995
From: DVentola@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:49:46 -0500
Message-ID: <951104184946_98057707@emout05.mail.aol.com>
To: toml@sover.net

name=  dave
make=  triumph
year=  1962
model=  trophy 650
condition=  chop
price=  $350
askingprice=  bo
comments=  oldie but goodie

From 100351.1625@compuserve.com Sun Nov  5 01:11:09 1995
From: 100351.1625@compuserve.com
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 01:11:05 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

comments=  
askingprice=  US$4250
price=  US$4000
condition=  exc
model=  CX500 Turbo
year=  1981
make=  Honda
name=  Bruce P

From 76177.3413@compuserve.com Mon Nov  6 21:23:32 1995
From: 76177.3413@compuserve.com
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 95 21:27:09 0000

name=  Adam Davidson
make=  Honda
year=  1995
model=  VFR750F
condition=  New
price=  $11,500
askingprice=  $13,000

From epagds@epa.ericsson.se Tue Nov  7 23:26:21 1995
From: epagds@epa.ericsson.se (Gary Simmonds - T/GS)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 95 15:29:28 -0800

name=  Julian Simmonds
make=  Honda
year=  1982
model=  XR 200RC
condition=  GC
price=  $750
askingprice=  $900
comments=  

From broth@mitre.org Thu Nov  9 12:42:18 1995
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 12:43:03 -0800

name=  
make=  Honda
year=  1980
model=  CX500D
condition=  excellent
price=  1000
askingprice=  1150
comments=  fairing, am/fm/cass, trunk, engine guards,
new battery, brakes, front tire

From frizzell@tricon.net Sat Nov 11 00:06:45 1995
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 00:06:57 -0800

name=  
make=  Honda
year=  1978
model=  goldwing
condition=  exc
price=  2000
askingprice=  2500

From JosephJ321@aol.com Sat Nov 11 12:49:46 1995
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 12:49:15 -0500

make=  harley-davidson
year=  1988
model=  sportster-1200
condition=  excel price=  $4500
askingprice=  
comments=  Has 4800 miles. great condition. could you send me prices
on comparable bikes that you may have. my address is josephj321@aol.com.
thankyou.

From bchrlty@iu.net Sat Nov 11 19:52:26 1995
From: Louis Cohen 
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 19:51:02 -0500

interest=  qualities
name=  Brenda Cohen Young
email=  bchrlty@iu.net
comments=  Well be there Dec 20 would like to pick some up.
We'll be in the Derby Line area is that near you.

From bchrlty@iu.net Sun Nov 12 01:02:41 1995
From: Louis Cohen 
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 01:02:37 -0500

interest=  Prices
name=  Brenda Cohen
email=  bchrlty@iu.net
comments=  Will be in Derby Line VT Dec 20 like to bring some maple back home
are you near NE Vermont

From mwarden@mail.hic.net Sun Nov 12 11:16:57 1995
From: mwarden@hic.net
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 16:17:24 0600

name=  Mike
make=  Honda
year=  1972
model=  CB500
condition=  2
price=  $1000.00
askingprice=  $1100.00
comments=  Low mileage bike - 7500 original miles.
Stored in garage uncovered for past 15 years.
Performed minor restoration and cleanup.
New battery, tubes, and minor paint touchup.
Complete rebuild of front brake.
Tank flush, etch, and cleanup.
Replace hoses.

From EasyRiderF@aol.com Sun Nov 12 21:43:38 1995
From: EasyRiderF@aol.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 21:43:07 -0500
Message-ID: <951112214304_104816615@emout05.mail.aol.com>
To: toml@sover.net

name=  EasyRiderF
make=  Harley Davidson
year=  1992
model=  Sportster XL 1200
conditi
on=  Excellent
price=  $7,200.00
askingprice=  $7,200.00
comments=  Bought at 
a dealer in Florida

From INTEE@aol.com Mon Nov 13 22:28:31 1995
From: INTEE@aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:29:41 -0500

name=  INN TEE
make=  KAWASAKI
year=  1994
model=  NINJA (ZX-9)
condition=  NEW
price=  8,600.00
askingprice=  9,300.00
comments=  

From tammy@ftp.com Wed Nov 15 09:05:26 1995
To: toml@sover.net
From: "Tammy D'Amore" 
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 09:31:29 EST

Tom,

My boyfriend is going to be selling his bike very soon.  He really 
doesn't want to let it go, but he wants to buy a new one soon.  Can 
you suggest a mailing list to post this bike for sale?  Do you know 
of anyone looking for a Harley Davidson?  I know the following 
information about the bike;

Harley Davidson
1983  1340 Superglide
Maroonish-red color/cromed to the max
Great condition/award wining bike!
Not sure of milage, will forward that if anyone is interested.
Asking (firm) $10,500.00

Tom, any advice you can give me I'd really appreciate it.  My 
boyfriend is so busy with his job all he's been able to do is put it 
in the Boston Globe.

The bike is located in Swampscott, MA.  My boyfriends name is Jay 
Ribicandria and if anyone would like to call Jay I'll can forward 
them his telephone number.

Tammy D'Amore
Sales Representative

FTP Software, Inc.   		Tel: 1-800-282-4387
100 Brickstone Square		Fax: 1-508-794-4477
1st Floor
Andover, MA  01810

Visit our World Wide Webb:  http://www.ftp.com 
Call to get some information on FTP's new product releases 

From x@pilot.msu.edu Thu Nov 16 16:25:22 1995
From: x@pilot.msu.edu
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 16:30:55 0000

name=  Andy Buhl
make=  yamaha
year=  1980
model=  400 special
condition=  good
price=  350
askingprice=  400
comments=  This is the first motorcycle I bought.  It only has
5000 miles, and is in good working condition.  I will need to
replace the tires and chain and get a tun-up, since it hasn't
been ridden in several years. I guess that the guy who sold it
just wanted to get rid of it, so that's why it was so cheap. 
I'm quite excited and hope that riding is as much fun as I expect.
I'm a student, so I can't afford a Harley or even a new Bike, like
I would prefer.  However I think that this one will meet my needs. 
I hope that this helps your survey.

From NKaplinski@aol.com Thu Nov 16 21:42:51 1995
From: NKaplinski@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 21:44:00 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name=  
make=  harley-davidson
year=  1996
model=  883 xl
condition=  new
price=  5500
askingprice=  5500
comments=  

From 73054.547@compuserve.com Sat Nov 18 20:52:23 1995
From: 73054.547@compuserve.com
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:52:21 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

comments=  This is my first visit. I studied under Robert Smith
of Bethesda, Maryland. I once did push hands with Ben Lo,
a teacher of Mr. Smith's. When I left the DC area, I lost
contact with Mr. Smith. I wonder if you know if he
is still teaching and where?
email=  73054.547@compuserve.com
name=  Ron Ireland
interest=  Tai Chi Chuan
interest=  Cats

From 73054.547@compuserve.com Sat Nov 18 21:04:54 1995
Date: 18 Nov 95 21:03:32 EST
From: Ron Ireland <73054.547@compuserve.com>
To: Tom Lichtman 

Mr. Lichtman,

I visited your home page tonight and sent email, but I'm not sure it went
through (I use Mosaic). I'm hoping that there is an informal network of Tai Chi
teachers. I studied under Robert Smith of Bethesda, Maryland for many years and
lost touch with him when I left the DC area. He is a great teacher, and I
wondered if you knew if he is still teaching. He studied with  Master Ben Lo (of
San Francisco). I once did push hands with Ben Lo. Since moving here to Virginia
Beach, I have no teacher. If you know of one in the area, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks for your time AND your home page, I'll visit again.

Ron


From RADIANMAN@aol.com Sun Nov 19 16:39:37 1995
From: RADIANMAN@aol.com
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 16:39:06 -0500
Message-ID: <951119163905_27599325@mail04.mail.aol.com>
To: toml@sover.net

name=  Jeff
make=  Yamaha
year=  1977
model=  RD400 Daytona Spec.
condition=  Exc.
price=  1,200.00 dollars
askingprice=  1,750.00
comments=  exceptional mint condition
 - just off the showroom
floor - 2,000 miles

From Bob.Hickey@durhamnews.net Sun Nov 19 16:47:32 1995
From: Bob.Hickey@durhamnews.net
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 16:50:39 -0800

name=  Brandon Hickey
make=  Yamaha
year=  1978
model=  Yamaha
condition=  Mint
price=  $6000
askingprice=  Auto Trader
comments=  

From hifiguy@ripco.com Mon Nov 20 03:47:05 1995
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 07:48:08 0500

name=  
make=  Honda
year=  1987
model=  Rebel 450
condition=  2
price=  1700
askingprice=  2000
comments=  

From breekman@luc.ac.be Mon Nov 20 07:20:28 1995
From: Bert Reekmans 
To: toml@sover.net
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:20:30  0100 (MET)

Hi Tom,
A few weeks ago I hooked up to your WWW page on T'ai Chi and found 
some interesting items about the School.
I was a student of Dan Ogrydziak's when I was at Umass in Amherst 
some time ago and would like to pick up T'ai Chi again here.  It
looks like I'll have to go to Holland (as I am in Belgium now) and
I was happy to find the proper phone numbers on your home page.  Thanks.

But... I moved recently and I lost the WWW site address and would like to
check it out again.  Is it possible to send me the address again?  
You wouldn't happen to have more info on the Dutch operation, would you?
Anybody of those people on e-mail by any chance that I can contact?
Any information you can give me is more than welcome.

This might be a cruel question, but is Partick Watson still among us?
Last I heard when I left Amherst was that he was very ill...

regards

Bert Reekmans

breekman@luc.ac.be

From toml@cad.liris.loral.com Mon Nov 20 13:09:18 1995
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 12:54:57 EST
From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: breekman@luc.ac.be

> I was happy to find the proper phone numbers on your home page.  Thanks.

You're welcome.  Thanks for letting me know it is usefull.

> 
> But... I moved recently and I lost the WWW site address and would like to
> check it out again.  Is it possible to send me the address again?  
> You wouldn't happen to have more info on the Dutch operation, would you?

my home page is: 
http://www.sover.net/~toml

my Tai chi page:
http://www.sover.net/~toml/Taichi.html

On the Dutch crew:  Sherry Kent, One of the most senior members of the 
school heads the group there.  I have a bunch of names, and I even took
a class (1 session) there once.  I taught B2 with Tonny Hendriks this last
summer in the US.  She lives and teaches in Amsterdam.

> Anybody of those people on e-mail by any chance that I can contact?

If they are, I don't know their addresses.


> This might be a cruel question, but is Partick Watson still among us?
> Last I heard when I left Amherst was that he was very ill...

Cruelty can never exist in the question... it can lie elswhere...

Not a sensitive area.  Patrick passed on about 3 years ago, from complications
deriving from his long time process with diabetes.  He hung in there far
past all predictions, and passed much material before departing.
The school is as strong as ever, and the life within it is thriving.


Tom 

From JBern915@aol.com Mon Nov 20 16:35:52 1995
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:36:51 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name=  
make=  HD
year=  1990
model=  FXSTC
condition=  2
price=  14,500.00
askingprice=  14,500.00
comments=  

From breekman@luc.ac.be Tue Nov 21 07:46:33 1995
From: Bert Reekmans 
To: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:48:45  0100 (MET)

Thanks for the information, Tom, very helpful, keep up the good work.

Bert

From aiyyer@atmos.albany.edu Tue Nov 21 14:25:35 1995
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:27:00  0000
From: Anantha Aiyyer 

interest=  Motorcycles
interest=  India
name=  Anantha
email=  aiyyer@atmos.albany.edu
comments=  Hi Tom,

Came across your page while surfing the net. I was
pleasently surprised to see that you biked through
india.

Being from india myself i know that it must have 
been quite an adventure ! Most indians would never
think of undertaking such an extensive road trip for
obvious reasons- bad roads, erratic traffic etc.
which is why i found your bike trip amazing !

I sincerely hope that you had a nice time.

I'm a graduate student at SUNY albany and i 
happened to buy my first bike this summer.
- A '79 Yamaha xs400. Not the best of choices
but has very low miles and is in fair condition
and most importantly, fitted into my graduate 
stipend budget.


Bye for now..

Anantha Aiyyer.


From redrider@slip.net Wed Nov 22 10:08:12 1995
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:09:43 -0800
From: redrider@slip.net (redrider)

I currently ride a 1975 BMW R90S, mostly to commute over the San Francisco
Bay bridge but how old does it have to be for vintage racing?  I didn't have
a lot of time to browse your web page but when my machine is old enough
maybe I should try racing - you made being in last place sound like fun.
I'll check out your page more this weekend.

Rachel,
redrider@slip.net


From JFlem73579@aol.com Thu Nov 23 12:29:31 1995
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:28:59 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name=  JFlem73579
make=  Harley
year=  1987
model=  fxrs
condition=  stock
price=  $8,000.
askingprice=  $8,000.
comments=  I actually bought this bike in 6/95.  
It was totally stock, no flames or changes. It had one owner who as you can 
see from the ask price and the sold price was extremely difficult to deal with
, but the bike was definitely worth the price.  I have had offers above my p
rice but have become attached to it. I have five bike's  currently and it'
s my  only harley. I think it's a keeper. Your first ride looks like mine,
 3 1/2 Tecemush pull start.  My others bikes include a 88 CBR1000, 84 ZX90
0 Ninji, 81 KZ 1000 that my friends have labeled "Heavy Metal" for reaso
ns you can understand and last but not for least '76 CJ 360 twin Honda that%
27s in mint condition that was given to me because a friend wanted someone who
 would appreicate it.  Any way I enjoyed your Indian adventure and if your pas
sing thru Long Island stop by Nathan's on a summer night in oceanside.

From dfoster@iquest.net Thu Nov 23 19:22:57 1995
From: dfoster@iquest.net (David Foster)
To: 
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 19:23:42 -0800

name=  Rob Cussen
make=  Yamaha
year=  1985
model=  700
condition=  ex
price=  900
askingprice=  didn't
comments=  

From firedog@cr.island.net Thu Nov 23 21:01:34 1995
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:21:43 -0800
From: john rabel 
To: toml@sover.net

name=  Blane
make=  Suzuki
year=  1988
model=  GSXR
condition=  above average
price=  $4000 Canadian
askingprice=  $4200
comments=  


From jukka.kohonen@guisys.pp.fi Fri Nov 24 14:52:26 1995
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 21:49:49 0200

name=  rp
make=  Harley
year=  1942
model=  hd wla 45
condition=  exelent
price=  fim 10000= $2000
askingprice=  
comments=  this is true, i have 10 of those what i bought
in former ussr (as marshall aid during wwII (41-45) 

From Bobhuge@aol.com Fri Nov 24 20:55:02 1995
From: Bobhuge@aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 20:54:31 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name=  Bob Hughes
make=  Harley Davidson
year=  1971
model=  Sprint-350
condition=  poor

price=  $400
askingprice=  $500
comments=  This bike was complete but not in running cond. It 
was manufactured by Aermachi in Italy, which was partly owned
by Harley during much of the 1960's and early 1970's. The bike
is currently under restoration.

From ScottSPATS@aol.com Fri Nov 24 22:15:01 1995
From: ScottSPATS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:14:29 -0500

name=  SIMONS
make=  HARLEY
year=  1990
model=  FXR
condition=  GREAT
price=  $12,000
askingprice=  $12,000

From JAWood5400@aol.com Sat Nov 25 09:20:41 1995
From: JAWood5400@aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 09:20:09 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name=  John Wood
make=  Harley Davidson
year=  1994
model=  FXR
condition=  Exc
price=  $12,900.
askingprice=  $13,000.
comments=  At time of purchase bike had 2700 miles. Owner
had added laced wheel, smoked w/s, HD saddlebags,
cissy bar and some minor options. He got back all
of his investment.

From JDTZ59A@mail.prodigy.com Sun Nov 26 15:58:11 1995
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 15:57:38 EST
From: JDTZ59A@prodigy.com ( TERRY HUNSAKER)
To: toml@sover.net


name=  
make=  YAMAHA
year=  1985
model=  RZ350
condition=  EX
price=  3000.00
askingprice=  3400.00
comments=  ONLY 3000 MILES LIKE NEW

From rroyce@interport.net Mon Nov 27 15:33:59 1995
From: rroyce@interport.net
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:38:12 -0800

interest=  Tai Chi Chuan
name=  raymond reid
email=  rroyce@interport.net
comments=  I am looking for a school or individual who
teaches morning classes in Manhattan, NY. I've
had no luck in my search -- do you have any suggestions?

From bartman@lnd.com Mon Nov 27 22:46:15 1995
From: bartman@lnd.com
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:43:49 -0800
To: toml@sover.net

name=  M. Fredendall
make=  Suzuki
year=  1978
model=  GS550E
condition=  Fair
price=  $350
askingprice=  -
comments=  Purchased from a brother of a friend
I'm currently restoring it to near new condition

From raven@intcomm.net Tue Nov 28 21:31:02 1995
From: Nick Raven Raven Sparrow 
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:32:14 -0800

name=  ROBERT L HAGAN
make=  KAWASAKI
year=  1982
model=  KZ P-10  1000cc
condition=  GREAT
price=  $1,500
askingprice=  $1,500
comments=    Custom seat. Passenger seat folds up for drivers back rest. 
Painted a PORCHE YELLOW.  Rebuilt engine 20,000 miles ago


From todowd@piper.hamline.edu Thu Nov 30 13:46:55 1995
From: "Tod O'Dowd" 
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 18:46:36 0600

name=  Cory Schilling
make=  Honda
year=  1983
model=  V65 Magna
condition=  Mint
price=  2700
askingprice=  3200
comments=  Has a little over 7000 miles on it

From consult@mailer.psc.edu Thu Nov 30 15:51:04 1995
	id AA28438; Thu, 30 Nov 95 15:51:01 EST
	id AA27641; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:52:45 -0500
Sender: consult@mailer.psc.edu
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:52:44 -0500
From: CONSULT 
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: toml@sover.net

name= 
make= Yamaha
year= 1983
model= Heritage Special
condition= 2
price= $800
askingprice= $1000
comments= Beautiful shape, low miles, but sat for about a year.  


From: DavidMoor7@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 22:40:17 -0500
To: toml@sover.net

name= 
make= Harley
year= 1977
model= Sportster
condition= Good
price= $3000 US
askingprice= $3500 US
comments= 

Date: Sat, 2 Dec 95 18:31:24 EST
From: "cn2895@abaco.coastalnet.com" 

name= Will Gorges
make= Triumph
year= 1971
model= Trophy 500 (T100C)
condition= 2
price= $2k
askingprice= $2.2k
comments= All original, minor ding in oil tank, original
decals and paint, 10,120 miles.  Runs like a scalded cat!

From: LowRider8@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:36:26 -0500

name= J. Schad
make= Yamaha
year= 1981
model= 650 Special
condition= good
price= 800
askingprice= 1000
comments= 

From: HarleyD790@aol.com
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 12:27:30 -0500

name= 
make= Harley-Davidson
year= 1986
model= fxstc Softail custom
condition= exc

price= 10,000
askingprice= not advertised
comments= bike is immaculate, loaded with chrome and is 
flawless. I acquired the bike through a friend who
is a bike wholesaler.

From: bdenney@space.honeywell.com
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 12:32:26 -0800

name= Bob Denney
make= Harley Davidson
year= 1995
model= XLH 1200
condition= New
price= $9200
askingprice= $9700
comments= 

From: Martin Dominguez 
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 12:50:39 -0800

name= Martin Dominguez
make= Indian
year= 1956
model= ?
condition= good
price= not yet
askingprice= ?
comments= I purchased a 1956 Indian, 250cc.  Don't know a whole lot about it yet.
 I have only seen (1) bike similiar to mine and it was in mint condition. 
It was selling for $10.000.  The condition of mine is between (excellent and good).
If you have or get any further info I would really appreciate it.  I can be contacted
at  Martin@netzone.com.   Thank you.

From: slatrat@ix.netcom.com
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 95 15:06:01 -0800

make= Harley Davidson
year= 1977
model= FLH
condition= 2
price= 8000.00
askingprice= 85000.00

From: JEFFH2626@aol.com
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 08:53:16 -0500

name= Jeff Hoffman
make= Suzuki
year= 1994
model= GSXRW750
condition= Excel
price= $5,800
askingprice= N/A
comments= Had two buyer.  Both friends and know how
 I take care of my equipment.  The Bike has 14,000 miles and very clean.  It
 needs new tred which I run Dunlop SportMax II GP's - not much life, but one
heck of a tire!

From: LumpyGuy@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:39:08 -0500

Hey Tom,
    I found your home page via your tai chi page which I reached through
Webmaster.  I am a 50 year old newbie to Tai Chi, which I took up to
hopefully help recover from the ravages of chemotherapy treatment.   I'm
leukemic.  It is more exercise than I expected but well worth the muscle
strain.  The meditative benefits are enormous.  

    The pictures of your cats are wonderful.

Barry P. Reich

From: RichardFra@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:49:26 -0500

name= richard F
make= harley Davidson
year= 95
model= FLHR
condition= new
price= 13900
askingprice= 18500
comments= This two tone Road King is for sale. 916 688-0196

From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: LumpyGuy@aol.com

Thanks for visiting my pages, and especially for responding.

Where are you studying Tai Chi?

I've found it to be incredible, and has gradually changed many
aspects of my life to the amazing better.

Tom

From: dkwagner@mailbox.syr.edu
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 95 12:59:12 0000

name= Don Wagner
make= BMW
year= 1994
model= R1100RS
condition= Exc
price= 10500.00
askingprice= 11500.00
comments= I purchased this bike from a dealer last February, 1994.

I also produce and sell maple syrup from a central NYS sugarbush. 

From: Virg9@aol.com
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:19:37 -0500

make= H.D.
year= 96
model= FLSTS
condition= New
price= $16,500
askingprice= 14,250
comments= The H.D. dealers are ripping the public off.  They have no
 motivation what so ever to behave in a business like manner because they can 
just about get any price for a bike especially the Big Twins.  M-O-N-E-Y is th
eir only motivation.

From: JMorris842@aol.com
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 21:41:27 -0500

make= Gold Wing
year= 1984
model= 1500
condition= 2
price= $5400
askingprice= $6000
comments= I bought this in 1994 and now I'd like to sell it.
Is there a source on the Internet that deals in 
used motorcycles.   I would like to buy an off-road
model instead.  Dirt-biking is my first love.  
jack

From: Gavin Scott 
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 23:48:04 -0600

name= Gavin Scott
make= Honda
year= 1987
model= Rebel
condition= 3
price= $550
askingprice= $550

From: JohnD1952@aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 07:27:09 -0500

name= John Daniele
make= Honda
year= 1985
model= Rebel
condition= fair
price= 500.00
askingprice= 1500.00
comments= It was a fine motorcycle, for a chick

From: "E. Pettingill" 
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 20:39:05 -800

name= John A.
make= Honda
year= 1980
model= CM400T
condition= Excel
price= $600
askingprice= NA
comments= Excellent condition, 16K miles, sale included
two full faced helmets, sissy bar and rack, wind
shield, tires good, battery new...a great bike for
novice... insurance is also reasonable for high
coverage...would like to hear from other CM400T
owners

Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 15:20:31 -0500
From: Greg Goff 

Hi,

I just did a Lycos search on Allegro PCB, and your resumee came up.

I'm helping out some friends of mine who are developing a really interesting
new parallel processing system on a shoestring budget working out of their
apartments up in Canada.

In order to complete the prototype, they need to get an eight layer board
done.  Apparently, Allegro is the only thing that can read their schematics,
but it would be difficult for them to spend a significant portion of their
microscopic development budget to buy the package at this point.

My shot in the dark is:

        a)  Could you/would you be willing to
        complete this job in exchange for reason-
        able compensation?  (this might turn into
        an ongoing relationship)

        b)  If not a), do you have any advice for 
        my friends?

The people who are doing this project really have their hearts in the right
place, and they've built successful prototypes in the past.  They just need
a little assistance to get over this hump.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Greg Goff


From: toml@cad.liris.loral.com (Tom Lichtman)
To: ggoff@compindex.com

I am not sure I can directly help without knowing more, but I can
give a little bit of info.

there is a usenet group dedicated to Cadence tools 
 users.  There you
can find other allegro users.

comp.cad.cadence

Also, many PCB layout systems other than allegro can still work with
their schematics, if they convert them to a semi-standard bill of materials
(physical package list, i.e. U2 is a 14pin Dip) and a netlist of the format

CCPIFD08X ; P1.115 R64.1 R129.1
CCPIFD09X ; P1.46 R63.1 R128.1

etc.
-----------
in this real list, each signal name has only one line, with connections
listed after.

Can you convert the existant schematics to a similar format?  if so,
then you have many options other than allegro.

Other issues are speed of signals in the design, for at high speeds the
routing becomes an active component.

Also, where will the boards be built?  Some PCB shops have captive PCB
design tools for handling schematic input.

An example is Compunetics in Pittsburgh PA.  They have allegro seats, and
are excellent at taking in schematics and producing boards.  assembly also.
(412) 373-8110,  jschmitt@well.com

Where in Canada?  I have spent a lot of time in and around Toronto.

Tom

From: Krh1195@aol.com
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:21:24 -0500

name= KEN HARTMAN
make= HARLEY DAVIDSON
year= 95
model= 
condition= GREAT
price= 12,000 ISH
askingprice= 
comments= BEST THING I EVER DID.  IT'S MY FIRST ONE AN
D AT MY AGE I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD STILL GET ONE, (50 YEARS OLD). 
a WHOLE NEW LIFE IS JUST STARTING FOR ME NOW!!